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There's a difference between being harsh and naive. You'd be crazy to believe anything somebody randomly posts on an internet forum without proof to back it up.
As far as one truck beating another, have to see it myself. More horsepower doesn't always equal a win in the 1/4 mile. Things like transmission gear ratio and especially the rearend ratio can make a huge difference. If you have two exact trucks lined up together with the only difference being one with a 3.73 rear end and the other with a 3.23 rear end, the 3.73 will smoke the 3.23 (better acceleration) and will have a higher towing capacity but the 3.23 will get better highway mpg. Manufacturers always sway things so their vehicle is better (they ALL do it.) There's also a huge difference in HP and torque. What people who tow things will care about will be the TQ ratings on the new Tundra, not HP. I'm not going to walk into a Toyota dealership because their new TRUCk has a quick 1/4 mile time. Most truck buyers (especially now since poeple who don't need a truck are buying cars again for fuel mileage) are going to look at style, reliability/quality, fuel mileage and towing capacity.
You forgot payload. The Titan will pull 10000 lbs, but if you are, you have to take 1000lbs from your payload. That means you can only put another 300lbs in the truck. That includes people!
I didn't say anything in my post about HP and Torque being equal, or that you'd buy a Tundra based on HP or 1/4 mile. I'm just saying a similarily equiped Hemi WILL lose in the 1/4 mile.
A lot of what boi'si posted in the first post will now be common knowledge among US Toyota dealers. In a few days it will be in Canada as well. He didn't have all the info right, but he was on track.
I'm not doubting all the info provided but the story just got a bit tall at times. Also, Homegrown, I take it you work at TMMK as well? PM me with what area of the plant you're in if you do. Assembly 2 here.
I'm not doubting all the info provided but the story just got a bit tall at times. Also, Homegrown, I take it you work at TMMK as well? PM me with what area of the plant you're in if you do. Assembly 2 here.
Okay saw some new stuff today, here is the best of what I remember
2007 Tundra
-will have class leading torque, hp, payload, and towing capacity
-they've backed off on 385 HP and are now saying that for competitive reasons they won't be releasing HP numbers at this time. Just that there will be none higher
-Comes in 29 configurations
-3 models: Regular Cab, Access Cab, Mega Crew
-Saw a video of the Tundra vs. F150 in quarter mile. They raced them with no load, Tundra won handily. Raced them with 1500lbs payload: tundra won by a larger margin. Raced them with 1500lbs payload onboard and pulling an FJ on a trailer, Tundra won by a massive margin. In fact it was winning by such a large margin they decided to race the F150 with no load, and the Tundra with 1500lbs pounds on board, the Tundra still won.
-Most importantly they spoke of future models. The word is that a 3/4 ton is in development and may be seen as early as 3 years.
2008 Matrix (will be a 2009 model in q1 of 2008)
-Completely redesigned. looks like a very distant cousin to todays matrix. Still a 4 door hatch, but the side stile lines are disticnt throughout toyota's line. The front carries throuch with the ridges along the hood, but the sides were somewhat radical. It was very impressive.
-I believe they said the XRS will have a 2.4L CVT @15_ hp, other models will have 1.8L (don't remember the HP).
-This was the full size clay model, without engine or interior
2008 Corolla (will also be a 2009 model in q1 of 2008)
-this was the most surpising car of the bunch. I was expecting a clay model since it won't be released for almost 2 years, but they drove it on the stage!
-think of a mating between the 07 camry and 06 corolla. that's what I saw.
-I'm not sure, but I think the styling may still change. There was NO COUPE shown or officially mentioned, however the buzz is that one is still comming as a 2009 model year
-Corolla XRS will have same engine as the matrix. Others will get the 1.8L as well.
2008 Highlander (comming q2 of 2007)
-saw the full size clay model, no engine or interior.
-Will have a V6 with 285 HP
-Sleek lines, looks to have a wider stance.
-Has a hide away middle row seat between the 2nd row capatains chairs.
2008 Sequoia (comming q1 of 2008)
-Only pictures, no engine information
-looks like a 08 highlander on steriods.
Thats all i've got for now. I'll hopefully get to sit in the Corolla a little later.
^^^^Thanks for the info! Man Toyota is really stepping up! I can't wait! Dang it! I just crapped myself from all that excitement!
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I believe they said the XRS will have a 2.4L CVT @15_ hp
nothing wrong w/215hp but he said it'll have 150-something hp....
I'll try to confirm that, It seems light to me too. I was trying to commit everything to memory, I may have gotten the hp wrong. I wasn't taking notes and they were bombarding the information!
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