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post #16 of 61 Old 04-19-2003, 12:21 AM
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Loads of good info here SpectraBlueCam. Thanks alot. I've got a question for ya. Could you explain in detail what wheel offset is. I know the general meaning but I want to hear it from you. I like to see a car with the wheels coming to the edge of the wheel arch but not too much that it touches. I also like to see the right tyre width on the rim. I find that this does alot for a car.

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Could you explain in detail what wheel offset is. I know the general meaning but I want to hear it from you. I
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Wheel offset, like you said, generally indicates how far a wheel sits relative to the strut housing on the inside and the wheel arches on the outside.

Let's start with the most basic example: 0 offset. 0 offset means that the mounting suface of the wheel (the back of the wheel where it contacts the brake rotor hat) is exactly half of the rim's width. On a 15x7 rim, this means that the wheel will be mounted on the car with 3.5" extending towards the strut housing on the inside, and 3.5" extending towards the wheel arch on the outside. Because the mounting surface is at the mid point of wheel's width, the spokes are often located closer to the middle and not along the outside edge of the rim. Hence, you have a "deep dish" rim.

Now, positive offset means that the mounting surface moves towards the outside of the rim by the number of the offset, denoted in mms. Using the same example, a +40mm offset means that the mouning surface is 40mm from the midpoint of the rim's width (i.e. 0 offset), i.e. it will be less deep dish. 40mm (the offset) plus 3.5" (the other half of the rim) will extend towards the the strut housing on the inside - this number is called "back spacing", and the rest of the rim (7" - 3.5" - 40mm) will extend towards the wheel arch on the inside.

Negative offset means the same thing, but the mouting surface is moved in the opposite direction, towards the inside.

Modern day Toyotas have POSITVE OFFSETS, in the area of 35-50mm, DEPENDING ON THE WIDTH OF THE RIM. Remember that since offset is determined in relation to the width of the rim, keeping the same offset doesn't guarantee proper fitment if the width's are different.

In terms of picking an offset of an aftermarket rim, your choice is fairly limited. Many owners want a deep dish rim, but don't realize that a low offset is required. Here's the general rule of thumb to rembmer:

The higer the offset, the more the rim will move towards the inside strut housing; if the offset is too high, the rim/tire cannot be mounted on the vehicle because it will bang into the strut housing

Conversely, the lower the offset, the more the rim will move towards the outside wheel arches; if the offset is too low, the tires will stick out from the wheel arches and rub over bumps.

I attempted to explain it in my own words since that's what you requested. But if I've failed to do claify the issue, here's more info and diagrams to help you out:

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/offset.htm

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Thanks alot SpectraBlueCam



Exactly what I was looking for
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excellent ...

now that i know my quest for rims will take much longer but result in excellent performance and safety

thank you SBC

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Question, what is the hub size of the Infiniti G35? Im thinking of buying the rims - and need to figure out if they are going to work for me - here is a link to my thread, thanks.

https://www.toyotanation.com/showthre...298#post209298

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The hub size of the G35 is 66.1mm. The hub size of the Camry is 60.1mm.

There is no ring that goes from 66.1mm to 60.1mm. But you can get the wheels bored out by a competent machine shop to 73mm, which is the size of most aftermarket rings. Ratko and I both have wheels that have undergone this process, and they fit just fine after the rings are installed. The machine shop charged, if memory serves, $100 per set.

In terms of the rim and tires, the fronts (16" x 7", +40mm offset, 206/60R16) will work (99% sure). The rears will definitely NOT work.

Everything else BenG has already covered. Hope that helps.

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the camry hub is 60.06mm I guess u rounded it to 60.1mm? And the nissan is 66.06mm - i found a ring that will work - here is the link, can someone check it out and see if i am correct? Thanks.

http://www.prestigewheel.com/cgi-bin...&key=HR66-6006

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Nice find dude.

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damn i have racing sparco ns-II rims
they're 16x7
i donno the offset
they came off an integ
this is not good eh?

so all toyotas w/ aftermarket rims are bad? well like unsafe n stuff?

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i had to use hubcentric rings for my Konigs when i put them on my Camry. they're made by Gorilloa Automotive Products.

60.06mm ---> 72.62mm

http://rayrayonline.bravehost.com/images/hubrings.JPG


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Found some locally too......so that problem is solved, With the hub ring i can put on the G35 rim no problem right? I mean its safe and all (dont consider the fact that it might stick out and what not :p )

im just saying the rim will fit.....with the ring.....and work.....correct?

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I hate to nitpick, but not all Toyota 5x114.3 rims have the same hub size of 60.1 mm. Please note that the MK IV supra and the MK III Supra, while both sharing this bolt pattern, have different hub sizes. The MK III has been roughly measured at 60mm (probably the 60.1), where the MK IV is confirmed at a number around 62. MK IV rims, a common swap to MK III cars confirm the gap, as did one members rear brake upgrade using MKIV rotors. The pics actually surprised me as to there being a significant difference, but there it was.

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I've got a set of rims from a 03 Celica, would it fit my 94 Camry?
The link of the rims.......
http://www.aewheel.com/wheels_detail.cfm?id=72

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Re: rim? will these fit on my 97 camry ce?

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15" (15x7) Infinity Q45 OEM alloy rims that came off a 1991 Q45. With bolt pattern of 5x114 and 35mm offset, which will fit on ALL 92-96 Toyota Camry, and most 5 lug cars.

please help me as i read all this offset and hub info and now
im not sure if they will fit or not?
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It will physically fit on in terms of bolt pattern and clearance. However, it will not be hubcentric - i.e. the weight of the vehicle will rest on the wheel studs. One solution is to have the hub of the wheels bored out to 73mm, which will allow you to use standard hub rings.

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What is MH3K?

And uh...check out ultimate camry FAQ. There is a link to it in camry FAQ or you can go to the main page toyotanation.com and click FAQ. It has stock offset if thats what your asking.
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