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My expertise on rims and tires
Becuase of the recent slow job market, I took a break from my field of trainning, and was able to work at a very specialized rims and tire shop. I've learned much from my experience, and I'll share some of that here from time to time. Feel free to ask any related questions on this thread.
A common occurence I've seen with Toyota owners is putting non-Toyota OEM rims on their cars. I'd like to discourage everyone from doing so.
Few Toyota owners actually realize that we are special in having the option of putting on rims from other car manufacturers. For example, while it is possible to put a Honda rim on a Toyota, it is not possible to put a Toyota rim on a Honda. Here's why:
All VW vehicles with 4x100 bolt patterns have the hub size of 57.1 mm.
All Honda vehicles with 4x100 bolt patterns have the hub size of 56.1 mm.
All Toyota vehicles with 4x100 bolt patterns have the hub size of 54.1 mm.
In fact, Toyota hubs are amongst the smallest (all Toyota vehciles with 5x114.3 bolt patterns have the hub size of 60.1mm, compared with Honda's 64.1mm, Mazda's 67.1mm, etc.).
What this means is that while you can physically fit a Honda or VW rim on a Toyota with the same bolt pattern, you can't fit a Toyota rim on a Honda or VW because it will not go over the hub.
Although we have the choice to put on rims from other car manufacturers, it's actually a BAD choice. Because the bore of the non-Toyota rim will be bigger than the hub, the rim will not be centered on the hub, i.e. the wheel is not HUBCENTRIC. The full weight of the vehicle will rest solely on the wheel studs - which they were NOT designed for, and vibrations can result from the uneven load. Genearlly this is a BAD IDEA.
This situation is different with AFTERMARKET RIMS, which are manufactured to a few generally large bore sizes, and hubcentric rings are provided according to the vehicle application. On a 4X100 Toyota, the hub ring will have an outside diameter (OD) of the wheel's bore (e.g. 72mm) and an inside diameter (ID) of the hub (54.1mm). This makes the rims HUBCENTRIC.
The next logical question whether hubcentric rings can be similarly used to put, for example, an OEM VW rim on a Toyota. Yes, but rings with that OD and ID combination is not widely manufactured. They will have to be custom made, for a cost.
Another logical point flowing from this discussion is that when purchasing aftermarket rims that were previously installed on anything but a Toyota, you will need to get new hubcentric rings for proper fitment.
JZZ30, AW11, ST205, JCE10, UZS161, NGJ12
Last edited by SpectraBlueCam; 04-08-2003 at 12:41 AM.