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Muscle car is the end result, right? It can't be self satisfaction of doing-it-yourself (DIY), right?
No way I can do a engine swap myself. I only ever got up to 2nd year in my apprenticeship.
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Okay, understood. Wish you the best! Here’s a good article even if you pay someone else to do the work! https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...23_HagertyNews
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Okay, understood. Wish you the best! Here’s a good article even if you pay someone else to do the work! https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...23_HagertyNews
Hey thanks for the article. Fortunately I do know the complete owner history of my car. It was in the extended family since date of purchase.

I am still shopping around for a competent shop to do it, but the one shop that has contacted me back with a ballpark estimate has quoted 15,000 to 20,000 Canadian dollars.

Guess I'll have to wait a bit more to spend money on my rust repair.
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I have a spare LC3 (supercharged)
Too bad I don't have my old Fiero... sold it years ago when I was still living with my parents and they were tired of looking at it. Was a dope black body with a perfect interior... Paid $500 in great shape but not running.. could have made a lot parting it out but Dad trailered it to the junkyard ;_; I miss that thing.. worst part is I'm a competent enough mechanic these days I could easily fix it
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Hey thanks for the article. Fortunately I do know the complete owner history of my car. It was in the extended family since date of purchase.

I am still shopping around for a competent shop to do it, but the one shop that has contacted me back with a ballpark estimate has quoted 15,000 to 20,000 Canadian dollars.

Guess I'll have to wait a bit more to spend money on my rust repair.

No problem, NOTAMR2! Keep it up and save! There is no rust repair, just your ride that you Love!


I had to do a little research myself as I didn't know what people meant by saying "LS SWAP IT"


Here's a great Video about it!
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Here's a Nissan 240SX - LS V8 Swap!


It's for sale!


http://www.2040-cars.com/Nissan/240S...l-swap-116413/
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Too bad I don't have my old Fiero... sold it years ago when I was still living with my parents and they were tired of looking at it. Was a dope black body with a perfect interior... Paid $500 in great shape but not running.. could have made a lot parting it out but Dad trailered it to the junkyard ;_; I miss that thing.. worst part is I'm a competent enough mechanic these days I could easily fix it

Yeah I bought it because STS-V's are super-easily totaled when you crash them, and I got a great deal (plus low-mileage CA-spec cats that somehow stayed attached to the engine cough cough). Northstar Fieros are pretty awesome, and assuming the supercharger clears the bay that would be a death machine worthy of turbo MR2s (I could swear I saw one fishtail in a drive-thru, lol). Now if only they didn't have leftover parts-bin suspensions from Chevettes (and some other crappy GM product I can't remember)...
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00 Camry 5S-FE 184k smoooth
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I found a local MR2 with a 3S-GTE swap in it already. Guy is asking 7500 OBO for it,

Should I jump on it and ditch this crazy idea of mine? The caveat is, guy says there are a "few things here and there" that need fixing. Money pit?
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IMO, an MR2 would be more fun to drive, but it's all about what you want. The MR2 and Fiero are fun, small, mid-engine cars. You need to learn how to actually drive them and learn about weight transfer so you don't snap oversteer, but they will carve corners like crazy and you can throw them around the road and really have some fun while still roughly following the legal speed limit

For me, there's a lot of other cars I'd be happier with for $10,000 (save a few Ks for repair), but again, it's all about what you want.

Oh yeah, also, if there's a few things here or there it could easily be a money pit, especially if you're contracting out the labor to a shop. This is why used cars tend to go for more money in stock condition (look at how rare and expensive a stock Supra is)... sellers don't always do the best job and buyers don't want to get stuck with someone else's problems
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I had a test drive with that seller's MR2 today, and it was really fun.

I am still wary of this though, as it is neither unique or my own project, since the 3S-GTE was swapped by a previous owner. There's something about buying someone else's project car that doesn't sit right with me.

Besides, a MR2 will attract attention no matter what...
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I had a test drive with that seller's MR2 today, and it was really fun.

I am still wary of this though, as it is neither unique or my own project, since the 3S-GTE was swapped by a previous owner. There's something about buying someone else's project car that doesn't sit right with me.

Besides, a MR2 will attract attention no matter what...
Have it looked over completely if you don't trust yourself to vet it properly. The old rule of "never buy someone else's project" has very few exceptions...

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Have it looked over completely if you don't trust yourself to vet it properly. The old rule of "never buy someone else's project" has very few exceptions...
As a second year, I can't attest to how bagged the tranny is. It seemed to pull fine during the test drive, but that's uber short term. There were no oil leaks that I could see. Clutch was sticky, stock steering wheel was long gone, and interior trim was like slighyly trashed, butt not TOO bad.

Exhaust has a hole in int which the owner disclosed no problem.

I can fix or have most of these minor issues fixed, my main dilemma is that it's a MR2, and not a sleeper.

Also no power windows and no air conditioning. Alsopower steering is busted. lol It that worth it?

I am tempted, but also want to pass in favor of my original sleeper idea
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One local shop in Edmonton already gave me a ballpark estimate of 15K to 20K in CAD. For the 3S-GTE swap.

How much aftermarket support is there for a 1MZFE anyways? It's another option I am considering.
Even MR2s that came with 3SGTEs crave V6 power! check this build:
http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...a-mr6-project/

SC and Turbo! They took some wrong turns on the way, ended up getting rid of wire cylinder o-rings, copper HG etc.

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...r6-toyota-mr2/
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I am going to pass on the MR2. The overall condition of the vehicle doesn't look like it should be worth $6000. 4K maybe and I'd buy it as a donor car.
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I am going to pass on the MR2. The overall condition of the vehicle doesn't look like it should be worth $6000. 4K maybe and I'd buy it as a donor car.
That 240 above has a GTO powertrain in it (but ugh, auto)...just buy an updated GTO with the 400 HP motor then swap a 1MZ into it. Put the 400 HP LS into the donor Camry and voila, you have two sleepers! Of different sorts

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