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post #1 of 98 Old 05-06-2018, 11:48 AM Thread Starter
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Cool 4th Gen Camry 3SGTE swap


Now before some of you say that I should do this sort of thing in a Celica or MR2, I have already thought about it, and I've decided that it's been done to death. I haven't seen a lot of truly modded or tuned 4th gens Camrys out there, and I wanted to do mine right. I am looking to have a performance shop do the swap for me (I have NO room to do it myself).

I've done a bit of research, and have learned that the 3S-GE and 3S-GTE can be relatively easily installed into an engine bay holding a 5S-FE.


Another option is the 1MZ V6 + TRD Supercharger, but I've heard that the 1MZ can't be built up as easily as the 3S.

If anyone has ever dropped a 3S into a 4th gen Camry, get back to me. I've love to hear your story about it and the costs involved.

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would you be mating it with the a541e, a140e or s51 trans?
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You forgot the most important bit of info: how much money are you willing to sink into this endeavor?

You can swap anything you want with enough dough. 2JZ-GTE RWD conversion? $15-20k will get you just that!

If you're not doing the work yourself, you need to talk to a shop that's going to be doing the work first. Many shops won't touch custom engine conversions at all, others may give you a price tag that's going to leave you far less enthusiastic about the project.

1MZ would be easy, as you can get all the stock parts. The supercharger is going to be hard to find and at least $2000.
3SGTE can be done with custom rear mounting bracket and custom wiring harness (guys at wiregap can hook you up, expect to spend $800-1200 for the harness). PrimeMR2 guys had done a 3SGTE swap in Gen2 Camry in the past, they were asking $10 or $12k for the car afterwards, though it also had a nice paint job and I believe was AWD. They would be happy to slot a Gen4 3SGTE into a Camry of your choice, expect the bill to be $6-10k.
2GR is a popular swap nowadays. A lot more custom work though, but a great engine. You'll have a hard time finding a shop to do it though.

This post should be enough to close this thread. Good luck otherwise!
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I am leaning more towards the 3S-GTE. Or perhaps even a 3S-GE, unless those engines are too rare?

Appears that a 3S series is the way to go!

I found a local shop willing to do the swap. I just have to wait till Sept to even get the car in, and June is the earliest I can book an appointment. They specialize in Nissan and Honda though. Most other shops in my town are American Muscle stricly, and none of those returned my e-mails or phone calls. (They thought I was joking)
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would you be mating it with the a541e, a140e or s51 trans?
I was thinking a E150F would be the way to go. I see a few JDM Caldinas on sale at my local importer, It might be worth it to buy one just for the parts. There's one on sale for a little over 4K CAD!
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Both 3SGE and GTE are readily available.

E150F is an AWD tranny - that's what "F" indicated I believe. Unless you're going AWD, you'll need to convert it to FWD, which requires the FWD diff and tranny cover. Easier to find an E153 out of a V6 Camry or Solara, which are already FWD. MR2 E153 has shifter linkages setup from the other side due to being mid-engined.

AWD and V6 are NOT compatible - the block and transfer case will interfere with each other, not to mention the exhaust headers.

Also consider emissions laws in your state to make sure you'll be able to register the car on the road afterwards. This is a huge deal in some states.
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Also consider emissions laws in your state to make sure you'll be able to register the car on the road afterwards. This is a huge deal in some states.
That won't stop ppl. My room mate has a car he pays $250-$300 a year to smog it. We live in Cali.

3S swap is possible but will be alot of work.

So will you be using a stand alone ecu, the one from your 4th gen, or one for the 3S?
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E150F is an AWD tranny - that's what "F" indicated I believe. Unless you're going AWD, you'll need to convert it to FWD, which requires the FWD diff and tranny cover. Easier to find an E153 out of a V6 Camry or Solara, which are already FWD.
How much HP can the V6 tranny handle?
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So will you be using a stand alone ecu, the one from your 4th gen, or one for the 3S?
More than likely it will be the ECU from the 3S
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I'm going to give my usual troll answer, Northstar swap! I have a spare LC3 (supercharged) sitting around if you want to ship it to you and promise to go through with the project

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Can't resist!...

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Another engine swap that will never happen.

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Another engine swap that will never happen.
My budget is 15k. Been saving up since 2012. Already found a local shop that said yes.
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