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post #1 of 27 Old 05-24-2019, 03:11 PM Thread Starter
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Disappointed with 2018 Camry

I just test drove a Camry SE with an i4 engine the transmission was hesitant until I got it up to higher RPMs I was ready to buy the car and now I see that the 2019 since I have the same issues. my family is a Toyota family I would look into a possible 2017 with a 6-speed transmission. Or a Nissan or Honda. TOYOTA YOU ARE LOSING LOYAL FOLLOWERS YOU MIGHT NOT CARE NOW BUT YOU WILL WHEN NO ONE BELIEVES IN YOU ANYMORE. WAKE [email protected]@@@[email protected]
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This is true. In the 8th Gen Camry forum this is talked a lot about. In fact, the I4 you drove is relatively fine. The trans in the V6 is the really laggy one. People say that it is this way to maximize fuel savings. The 2.0T Accord's new 10 speed AT seems to offer a lot better experience. But it has its own issues.

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- wait, what's the issue?
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- wait, what's the issue?
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Just the future of automatic transmissions that will more than likely come no matter what people want. It is, of course, mostly gonna be about fuel savings. At the end of the day, OP could always leave Toyota's but that means a whole new bag of issues with a different brand.

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It means when you floor the pedal the car is suppose to move, not crawl.
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Just the future of automatic transmissions that will more than likely come no matter what people want. It is, of course, mostly gonna be about fuel savings. At the end of the day, OP could always leave Toyota's but that means a whole new bag of issues with a different brand.
- seroiusly I didnt know they had tranny issues
- can you post a link to the issue?











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Only thing I think I've heard is the 6+ speed automatics like to search for gears but I am not a good source on that.

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"the 6+ speed automatics like to search for gears "
can't be sure but i believe the slush box, gear hunting started with the gen5's 5 speeds back in '05 and seems to have gotten worse with even more gears. my 4 speed trans in the gen3/4 was just fine and lasted a long time. guess that's exactly why they couldn't leave well enough alone.
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The first A140E in my 2000 4th gen hauled when I floored it, too bad it broke from a reverse to early "D". I ended up getting another A140E from a 97 or 98, with 280+ kilmometers on it, and it hauled until it came out earlier this week during the swap.
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"the 6+ speed automatics like to search for gears "
can't be sure but i believe the slush box, gear hunting started with the gen5's 5 speeds back in '05 and seems to have gotten worse with even more gears. my 4 speed trans in the gen3/4 was just fine and lasted a long time. guess that's exactly why they couldn't leave well enough alone.
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I got the 08 Camry with the U250E and I don't feel much of a difference between the older Camry's but then again, I've been driving my Camry my entire life and I try to go for "it's the nature of the beast" approach so what others may consider not normal I am just gonna consider normal and I will live with it. On that note, the older Camry's that I have driven while working in the shop typically tend to be in one way or another due to overall neglect.

The car I hated the most to test drive was an last gen Celica driven by an idiot who always tended to drive it drunk at night and smack the front of it on something (hence the AC does not work since the thing is pushed in). When I drove it, it's shifts were just stupid hard. I'm used to my Camry being relatively hard at times but this felt like it was a manual. Maybe it was how it was designed but I did not at all like the feel. He later totaled it

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I test drove a 19 SE and XSE both with the 4cyl and I was not impressed either. I opted for the XSE V6 and installed a Pedal Commander to remove the throttle lag. My 07 Accord 4ycl was/is faster off the line compared to these 4 bangers.
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I just test drove a Camry SE with an i4 engine the transmission was hesitant until I got it up to higher RPMs I was ready to buy the car and now I see that the 2019 since I have the same issues. my family is a Toyota family I would look into a possible 2017 with a 6-speed transmission. Or a Nissan or Honda. TOYOTA YOU ARE LOSING LOYAL FOLLOWERS YOU MIGHT NOT CARE NOW BUT YOU WILL WHEN NO ONE BELIEVES IN YOU ANYMORE. WAKE [email protected]@@@[email protected]
Try to find a 2011 SE trim with low miles if you can.

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Ah, the best forum to be in for those disappointed with the newest Camrys. Wish Toyota would rerelease gen3/4 a la NES Classic Edition, damn crash ratings
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Drove a rented '19 Camry last month for three days. Nice car. The 4 cylinder was peppy enough, however, the transmission seemed to suffer from "confusion" now and again.
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- seroiusly I didnt know they had tranny issues
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The 2018 & 19 4 cyl Camry's are a contradiction for both young and old people; they were made to look sporty in order to appeal to young people. But acceleration wise they drive like grandma cars; i.e. the throttle lags when pushed abruptly from low speeds and the upshifts come way too soon in gears 1-3, plus the torque converter locks up DURING acceleration, further bogging down the car. So the hurried sub-35 year olds feel fustrated with the car.

The grandmas don't mind the leisurely acceleration, but they dislike the lowered roofline and seats that makes getting in and out of the car substantially more difficult than the earlier generation Camry's and far more difficult than the Ford Crown Victoria's and Buick LeSabre's they used to own.








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