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Recommended antifreeze and spark plugs

What brand of antifreeze and spark plugs do you recommend for a 95 camry v6 with 1mzfe engine? And do you guys dilute your antifreeze or put in full strength? I want to know what the best would be.
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Toyota Red Long Life Coolant (still requires changing every 2 years/30,000 miles). Denso or NGK spark plugs - if iridium are offered for that engine (I think they are), that is what I would go with.

Antifreeze can be purchased pre-diluted or full strength. For the cost, I go with full-strength and dilute with distilled water to get a 50:50 mix (adequate for South Carolina, may want to go up as far as 70:30 antifreeze:distilled water in cold weather states).
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93celicaconv, why 2 years for TLLC RED? Last time I checked Toyota claimed the LLC RED is good for up to 5 years, not 2.
I actually checked conductivity (not the pH unfortunately) of 4 years old TLLC in 1mz-fe and it was still very good.


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You don't need Toyota's newer red or pink coolants for these older cars, but there is nothing wrong with using them though. They are good for 5 years, and so is Peak Global Lifetime, which can often be had at a great price.

Green coolant will work just fine, but only for 2-3 years. The original coolant was probably green.

Both the 50/50 premix or mixing it yourself with full strength is good. The premix is more convenient, but mixing it yourself does cost less. NEVER put in 100% straight full-strength coolant, or any mix over 70%. Higher concentrations will not provide better protection, and will even be less efficient. The glycol in coolant has less heat transfer ability than water; it's only used to raise the boiling point and lower the freezing point.

Fun fact: the freezing point of pure ethylene glycol is actually +9 F!

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For spark plugs, get the Denso 3253. Another option is NGK 3452, but they are more expensive. You can get them at a great price online. You can also use the cheaper Bosch 4301, but some people here don't like Bosch.

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excellent graph for coolant freeze point and various concentrations! would never know ...

one correction though. the Toyota Long Life Coolant (RED) concentrate is not "newer" it's actually the very old formula that was initially used in factories back in the day a decade (or two) ago. Toyota is trying to phase it out nowadays, jacking its pricing up with every year and making consumers switch to newer TSLLC (PINK) premix which may be even more expensive (and can be harmful in older cars a long run, just like using T-IV or Dexron-VI can be in old transmissions).
The sad truth is that this pink premix was NOT designed to protect brass/copper parts that are present on older gen3/gen4 designs. I wouldn't use that in older cars with brass ports and copper heater cores, it's asking for trouble, things will corrode over time. Newer designs are all aluminum as I read and TSLLC PINK was designed for that while TLLC RED was made for gen3/gen4 era and it did a remarkably great job.

There is also a cheaper alternative to Toyota RED, sold by NAPA, but I forgot its name, something with A1 in name and a name sounding like Pentofrost or something

Green Zerex is also good, but yeah, max life is 2 years I think, that's what people who use it say around here. Used it once personally, but flushed it out before 2 years passed, switched back to Toyota cherry red and happy with it

never tried personally the Global Peak 50/50 on any Toyota, isn't this coolant a Dexcool clone?


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Great response, Fenixus. Toyota Long Life RED was used in the 1066bs's vehicle when new, and the maintenance schedule on that vehicle calls for coolant replacement ever 30,000 miles. I have a 2003 Camry V6 which also came with the Toyota Long Life Red, and my maintenance schedule calls for coolant replacement every 30,000 miles. I went with 2 years because most companies assume cars are driven 15,000 miles per year. I don't know of any application where Toyota Long Life RED had a 5-year change interval period. The PINK, yes; not the RED.
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Plugs: Either Denso or NGK. Get the exact type of plug with which the car was built. Both Denso and NGK have this.

Coolant: Big point of controversy, so here's my two cents: Use a HOAT coolant. The color does not matter, as long as the ingredients are correct (but yes, red is the official color). Other than Toyota Red (which is expensive), you can try any of these concentrates and mix with distilled water: Pentofrost A1, Beck/Arnley Red, Recochem OEM Red, Aisin coolant (but I can't find anyplace that sells it). There may be some other brands, just make sure it is HOAT regardless of the color. For pre-mixed 50/50 coolant, the only brands I know of are Zerex Asian Vehicle Formula, and Beck/Arnley Pink.
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Plugs: Either Denso or NGK. Get the exact type of plug with which the car was built. Both Denso and NGK have this.
+1. The correct plug for your car should be listed in your owner's manual. It has the correct resistance for your car/motor. Newer plugs may not, why risk it?

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it makes sense (15k miles a year, 30k miles max total on TLLC officially). I am trying to figure out why I keep remembering 5 years for TLLC though, and I don't think it was based on my mileage. might need to search through some older posts, maybe I can find the reasoningbehind it (if any LOL!), the coolant discussions keep returning from time to time

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Great response, Fenixus. Toyota Long Life RED was used in the 1066bs's vehicle when new, and the maintenance schedule on that vehicle calls for coolant replacement ever 30,000 miles. I have a 2003 Camry V6 which also came with the Toyota Long Life Red, and my maintenance schedule calls for coolant replacement every 30,000 miles. I went with 2 years because most companies assume cars are driven 15,000 miles per year. I don't know of any application where Toyota Long Life RED had a 5-year change interval period. The PINK, yes; not the RED.


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never tried personally the Global Peak 50/50 on any Toyota, isn't this coolant a Dexcool clone?
No, the Peak Global Lifetime, in the gold-color bottle, is NOT a Dexcool clone. It doesn't contain the evil 2-EHA "deathcool" but you have to make sure it is in the gold-color bottle. The red cap is 50/50, and the black or blue cap is the full-strength concentrate. (NOTE: Peak recently changed the bottle designs, and with it they changed the cap color of the concentrate, which is now blue. The old bottle had a black cap, and there are probably still some bottles on the shelf like this) The 50/50 red cap was NOT affected by this change, and still has a red cap now.

The blue bottles labeled "long life" are Dexcool clones which contain 2-EHA. Avoid them!

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You know, all the guess work could be eliminated if people just spent the extra $20 and bought Toyota coolant. I think $20 is a very small price to pay to make sure your cooling system is properly protected.

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