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2002 Camry Flex Pipe install look correctly done?

does this look like it was installed correctly? I took the car to a second muffler shop and they told me the previous shop did it incorrectly and should have put in more pipe at the ends. They said it will probably come off after 6 months.
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Who the hell did that? What, did they pay you to let them do it? Dude, that is horrible work. It looks like they just crammed the one end into part of the old flex pipe braid pr. something. It is hard to tell. So, NO it does not look correctly done at all! Never go with the low bid. It should have been cut off further out (see yellow lines). Go find a shop that has a clue and get it done correctly.
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The shop asked for $175 for this. I ended up paying $120. The muffler shop has been in business for decades so im surprised everyone is stating this was done wrong. Will this come apart much sooner than later?
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As long as you don't hear any other noises, the flex pipe "is installed correctly". The weld can be a lot better and the pipe itself could be a straighter BUT if it holds it will hold. How long will it hold, I can't say. When it goes bad, you will hear it. Personally while I hate the way it looks, I'd live with it until the time comes for me to take it to a DIFFERENT shop. It's the same job either way. Cut, clean, replace, weld. It's your choice in the end.
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Do you think i should go back there and show them these photos? The job was done last week. Will they most likely redo it with a new flex pipe? I don't mind showing them my proof but just don't want anyone to poke at any other car components out of ego revenge or anything of that sort.
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It's your choice. If they can do it for free, do it. If you have to pay, live with it til it goes bad. I'd personally would just wait with till it goes bad. My old shop I used to work at does plenty of welding work so I am guaranteed to go there (along with no labor tire installs).

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Last summer 2018, I replace an flex pipe on a 05 Camry V6 at an muffler shop. The shop show me two type of flex pipe the economy one with single braided and last 2-3 years max and a heavy duty one with double braided mesh and interlocking inside. Both are made in china but the heavy duty look more robust and the welder told me it could last more than 5 years. Price was $120 CDN tax in for economy flex pipe and $140 for the heavy duty and I opted for the heavy duty one. Here's a sample pic of the heavy duty flex pipe and i suggest you to re-do it, it was a very bad job. Usually when they weld you could stand beside your car and watch the welder do and supervise the job and if anything your not ok just tell him and they will correct it.


Edit: 1st pic is normal flex pipe and inside is mesh type braided.
Pic #2 is heavy duty one.
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Last summer 2018, I replace an flex pipe on a 05 Camry V6 at an muffler shop. The shop show me two type of flex pipe the economy one with single braided and last 2-3 years max and a heavy duty one with double braided mesh and interlocking inside. Both are made in china but the heavy duty look more robust and the welder told me it could last more than 5 years. Price was $120 CDN tax in for economy flex pipe and $140 for the heavy duty and I opted for the heavy duty one. Here's a sample pic of the heavy duty flex pipe and i suggest you to re-do it, it was a very bad job. Usually when they weld you could stand beside your car and watch the welder do and supervise the job and if anything your not ok just tell him and they will correct it.


Edit: 1st pic is normal flex pipe and inside is mesh type braided.
Pic #2 is heavy duty one.
They let you watch? The let you watch WELDING? Really? Can you still see? Did they charge you double??
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Brutal work. Flex portion looks short as well, but I could be wrong. If it's too short you'll experience severe vibration at idle with ac on. Shop probably won't swallow that, so, lesson learned; don't use that shop.

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The shop i went in Montreal is called Kiko Muffler. Is located at an area that plenty of repair, body shop and exhaust repair and modification. I'll inclued a link of their website so you could have an general idea / examples how it look. Their garage is clean and have 12 bay lift. On weekend is super busy and at least 1h of waiting and on weekday is less busy. They have a lots of chair place beside front of your car so you sit and wait while they fix and your able to check the welder's job free of charge. That muffler shop, the owner and welder speak mostly spanish and not much english and Ok french and i assume they from Latino America.



http://www.kikomuffler.ca/
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Welcome to the site firstofficer.

The weld job looks awful, looks like inclusions and slag in the weld; you should consider a leak test. If you have a shop vac that will reverse direction, or a leaf blower, you can jam it into the tail pipe (engine off) and make a tight seal, then blow into the exhaust system. Take a bottle of soapy water and spray along the weld areas, drenching it good. If bubbles appear then it is a bad, bad job. If you click my CAMRY MOD link you will see where I did this test to identify where I had some loose connections from my header to my front pipe.

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Looks tacky, and you can see pinholes where the weld hasn't completely sealed the joined parts; I'm surprised you're not hearing a repetitive hissing noise. Also, they do have a bolt-on replacement pipe; I would have splurged for that instead of a cut-and-weld pipe.
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