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post #16 of 59 Old 08-15-2012, 05:33 PM
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It's definitely possible, especially if you are familiar with electronics. (I noticed that you are an engineer.) You just need to get both (high and low) +'s to one side of the bulb, and - to the other. (Then make sure you insert it properly ) You'll likely need to break into the base to make this happen. Please excuse me if I'm backwards on any of this, I wrote it rather quickly.

Check out these these pictures from autolumination.com (they also sell the ck or "swack" type bulbs common on Toyota's.






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Here are pictures of each side of my switchbacks. I know on the passenger side, positive faces the passenger side of the car (the bulbs I bought were designed to only go in one way). I would assume the drivers side is the same, but I'm not certain.

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Thanks for the images, now I know I do not need two grounds. That will make it easier to rebuild in the CK configuration.

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Thanks for the images, now I know I do not need two grounds. That will make it easier to rebuild in the CK configuration.
Mechanical engineers shouldn't be buying the cheap stuff from china. Though it's likely my expensive bulbs were made in china, hmm ...


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All of the LEDs we use at work come from China or Japan. I asked one our Electrical Engineers about these before I ordered them and he it was worth a try for the price. He basically said what you did; the more expensive ones are probably made in or with Chinese parts.

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All of the LEDs we use at work come from China or Japan. I asked one our Electrical Engineers about these before I ordered them and he it was worth a try for the price. He basically said what you did; the more expensive ones are probably made in or with Chinese parts.
What site did you buy from?

If they would just list lumen output, it would be simple to compare. This is likely the exact reason they don't. But, you'd think if a cheap competitor had the best output (or close for the price), they'd make it known..


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What site did you buy from?
I got everything from dealinthebox on eBay and they do list lumen outputs, here are some comparisons:


Bulb El Cheapo / V-Led
H11
lm 450 / 400
Watt 5 / 13
#LED's 102 / 28
Cost (Pr) 8.02 /49.99

9005 HB3
lm 500 / 630
Watt 3 / 13
#LED's 120 / 28
Cost (Pr) 8.10 / 59.99

3157*
lm 150 / 120
Watt 1.5white,2amber / ?
#LED's 60 / 60
Cost (Pr) 8.38 / 49.99

Now, I don't know that we can believe everything we read on the internet, but if the numbers are true, they are OK. They seem to use more LED's, but less wattage, to achieve about the same values as the V-Led products and for much less money.

The true test will be the install and photos.

*- The cheapo was not a CK bulb and they do not seem to have one

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I got everything from dealinthebox on eBay and they do list lumen outputs, here are some comparisons:


Bulb El Cheapo / V-Led
H11
lm 450 / 400
Watt 5 / 13
#LED's 102 / 28
Cost (Pr) 8.02 /49.99

9005 HB3
lm 500 / 630
Watt 3 / 13
#LED's 120 / 28
Cost (Pr) 8.10 / 59.99

3157*
lm 150 / 120
Watt 1.5white,2amber / ?
#LED's 60 / 60
Cost (Pr) 8.38 / 49.99

Now, I don't know that we can believe everything we read on the internet, but if the numbers are true, they are OK. They seem to use more LED's, but less wattage, to achieve about the same values as the V-Led products and for much less money.

The true test will be the install and photos.

*- The cheapo was not a CK bulb and they do not seem to have one
I looked them up, but couldn't find their bulbs on eBay. I'm interested to see how they compare with the 194/168 - flank or forward beam bulbs, some of the different festoon sizes, and their 921's.

The 2012 Camry guys are buying "AGT" LED bulbs. They've all kind of clique d together, and they love them. I know all the parts/manufacturing are coming from one place. I'm just hesitant to deviate from something that I know is quality and works. But my wallet will likely benefit if I experiment.

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Although the images say dealinthebox, they are actually from different vendors. Here are the links to them.

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3157 Switchbacks
HB3 9005

I looked briefly and did find some festoons from the same place I got the switchbacks but all I found were 42mm and 31mm, no 29's. I also found some 194's but no 921's.

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Thanks. I added that seller to my favorites, and depending on your opinion, may check them out next time.

I am slowly becoming "the LED guy" amongst friends

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I just checked the output of our 9005 halogen high beams - its 1700.

Most hid's are around 3200 for the low beams. Granted the high beams are designed to illuminate a higher field of sight (right?)

I may purchase a set of LEDs for looks for the drls, but this will effectively eliminate my high beams. Maybe I don't really need them? I haven't been in a situation where I've had to use them yet..


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...I am going to take the bulb assemblies to work when I get them and see if it will be possible to rebuild them in the CK configuration...
So I got my switchbacks, brought them into work, modified them and I think they will work. We ended up cutting the extra ground and extending the turn signal wire to make it long enough to run along the tip of the connector base and then bent it down to the correct location. I also filed down the tip of the base so the extended wire did not stick past the existing end.

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Close up:



Once I get all of the bulbs, I will post some half and half photos and some fully replaced photos as well. Hopefully my other bulbs get here soon!

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So I got my LED Bulbs and they do not fit in the reflector assembly. The diameter of the LED assemblies are too big to fit thru the holes in the reflectors. They are 20mm in diameter and are very close to fitting,but not quite!

I looked at the H11's and HB3's on V-LEDs and they are 18.6 and 18.4mm's in diameter and I believe these would fit. When I get to work on Monday, I will measure the holes in the reflector to be sure.

I am going to look for some cheap Chinese ones again to see if I can find them in the correct size, if not, it looks like l'll be paying $180 to get them from V-LEDs.

Even though they didn't fit they looked well made and were quite bright. To be continued...

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V-LEDs will always fit, unless it's an odd application. You can also can ask them, or read reviews before your purchase.

I'm with you on the cheaper (cut out the middleman) bulbs. Vleds has claimed the flagship position, with flagship pricing. I recently asked them on their Facebook page why they don't list lumen output, they said they're working in it - ( yea right )

There are other reliable sellers out there, but they'll never be as cheap
as ordering from china.

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I recently ordered LED replacement bulbs for my DRL/Highbeam (HB3 9005), Low beam (H11)
If these bulbs end up not working, can I somehow coerce you into purchasing HID's?




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