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post #16 of 2059 Old 03-09-2007, 11:53 PM
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The shocks on e-bay from Down South Motorsports are the ones. They use the existing Toyota coil. You must disassemble the existing shock and remove the coil, and then the new 5100 goes on in place of the old shock. It has indexed grooves at the top of the shocks to adjust ride height. It doesn't change the dynamics of the coil, it is just a longer shock. The Alcan AAL is from Toytec and it raised the back about 2".

Here is from the e-bay auction -


Bilstein 5100 Series Pre Load Adjustable Front shocks for a

'05-'06 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 & 2wd TRD (Pre-Runner)

The shocks are Brand New and have never been installed!!!

The Front Shocks have groves in the body so that you can
set them to stock height or up to a 2.5" Lift

Shocks were designed to level out a stock truck.


The rear shocks are also included in this auction.

These are the Bilstein 5100 Series and both shocks are a direct bolt on application.

These shocks are made by Bilstein for Race Car Dynamics to there specifications.

Again this auction is for front and rear shocks.

Here are the part #'s:

Front: BE5-C477-TO
Rear: BE5-C478-TO

Zinc-plated shocks that install like factory replacement shocks and are designed to correct the factory rake.
The OEM spring seat is repositioned to provide more preload to the factory spring.
The result is a level front to rear ride height.
An extremely simple and effective solution, offering increased wheel travel.

To make this deal even better, we are offering
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He's asking about the part #
Front: BE5-C477-TO
Rear: BE5-C478-TO
It doesn't come up on the Bilstein website.

This is the part # listed on the web page:
Tacoma 4WD/Prerunner 05- 0-2.5" 0-1"
Front: BE5-C475-H0
Rear: BE5-C476-H0

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I was looking at the pictures on Ebay, and did you guys notice that it is just a "C" clip that adjusts the height??



I'm wondering how much abuse can that take??

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yeah you don't need anything other than a c clip.
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yeah you don't need anything other than a c clip.
HMMM??? The front of our trucks weighs about 1500 -2000 lbs. It seems like bare minimum for a suspension to be held up by such a small clip??
Oh Well? I guess only time will tell if that "C" clip will fail over time?

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hope this stops the bickering, as i said i talked to bilstein and wheelers. The shocks are the same 5100 offered on the bilstein website the only difference is the model number, since those shocks are made for the aftermarket company that is selling them. i.e. same 5100 shock just renamed so the company can have some credit, lots of people so this stuff. Buy from the wholesale and repackage them with their company logo even though it's the same product offered elsewhere. Like your coffee beans, smaller company buy wholesale beans that have been already roasted and repackage them with there logo for resale. Anyways. The shocks should work with the stock springs, but i'm going with the 885, because there longer, and it's not like i can't adjust the spring on each front shock, plus i take it if one side sags, i'll just raise that side. tech the front setup with the 885 i added wrong, should be from a 0-5.25inch lift since the shocks are already 1inch longer then the stock ones. given that the new shocks are adjustable from 0-2.5 and the springs are 1.75inch so thats 1+4.25inch =5.25inch of front lift at max. and if i have one side 2.5 and the sag side 3.5 i'll still be set level and no need for top spacers.

Hope this helps everyone out, i didn't think anyone cared But it looks like people do Hopefully my stuff arrives nextweek and i'll have 2 days to wrench on my truck. I've been looking for this for a long time, and just been really hesitant about getting ome shocks, yellow is such an ugly color for them. I'll be sure to take pictures of the install too since i know everyone would want to see it.
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I was looking at the pictures on Ebay, and did you guys notice that it is just a "C" clip that adjusts the height??



I'm wondering how much abuse can that take??
I have 100% faith that these shocks would be fine, those rings you see on teh sides of the picture are what the shocks are mounted on, and i wouldn't worry about the c-clip, there's a lot of other stuff out there that uses them and take more abuse. Think about the expensice coils, the springs is compressed by threading on the shock and that lil disk you can adjust like turning a screw.

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So...the only thing you are adding to the back of the truck is the shock? No blocks or AAL. I am interested to see how this turns out. I really only want to level out my front.
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I was looking at the pictures on Ebay, and did you guys notice that it is just a "C" clip that adjusts the height??




I'm wondering how much abuse can that take??
I have a bistien setup like these on my A4, they can take a beating



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What are the bilstein part numbers you ordered? I can only find the tundra set up.

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That C clip setup is similar to the Downey coil overs. The Downey threaded sleeve slips over the shock body and is held up by a C clip. The Downey setup sucked as it squeeked real bad where the coil rubbed the threaded sleeve but I never had an issue with the C clip.

Guess I would have to ask though why not just go 100% OME up front, also a great, inexpensive, no fuss setup and OME shock out back with the AAL?
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That C clip setup is similar to the Downey coil overs. The Downey threaded sleeve slips over the shock body and is held up by a C clip. The Downey setup sucked as it squeeked real bad where the coil rubbed the threaded sleeve but I never had an issue with the C clip.

Guess I would have to ask though why not just go 100% OME up front, also a great, inexpensive, no fuss setup and OME shock out back with the AAL?

answering myself a little bit here, the bilstein setup is a little cheaper on Wheelers site...

http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/05uptacoadjbils.htm

I wouldn't sweat the C clip either, wheelers wouldn't sell it if there were issues....
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I read on tundrasolutions, some guy had a failure of one of these shocks, I did a search for 5100 pre load adjustable shock. Apparently he was confronted by Bilstein and advised not to talk about his experience on the forums? It is a long thread, check it out, there are even pics.

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I had c clip bilsteins on my A4 too, they do take a beating. That car weighs more than a Tacoma as well.
He was advised to not talk about it on the forums, or what. They would kill him. You make is sound like his life was in jeopardy if he sqealed, lol.
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Yeah Circlips can be very strong depending on the size. There are circlips used to hold our front axles to the CV joint, and their crush breaking strength is a reported 15-20 thousand pounds. The ones used on our axles look to be about the same size as the ones used on those bils.

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