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post #91 of 408 Old 01-18-2009, 07:55 PM
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Is this happening on all four tires? Also, what is your tire rotation schedule like?

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This is happening on all four tires.

The tires have been rotated once at the 5000 mile maintenance.

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I think you're situation is excessive tire scrub, which affects all four wheels inside and out. Take it in for an alignment as soon as possible. Besides being a gas eater it also is pretty nasty on tire wear...as you're already aware. There's no danger associated with it. One thing of note, though, and that is I'd have the alignment done somewhere other than where you had the tires rotated. Any mechanic worth his salt should have seen that wear when rotating and recommended an alignment. Let us know how it turns out. Oh, one more thing. When you do get an alignment make sure to always request the readout, that way if there are any issues within the warranty period of the work (usually 60-90 days) you have proof regarding what work was performed on the previous alignment.



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YES the 08 Highlander Hybrid is a POS in snow!

I grew up driving in snow, I enjoyed the challenge of taking vehicles that do not drive well in snow, like a Mazda Miata, I have never been stuck.

Today I took our 08 HH into the snow, we turned on a downhill road with about 5 inches of snow on it. While slowing down the traction control system shut the power off to the wheels and I was unable to control the car and it slowly slid into a snow bank.

Once I was stuck in the bank, the reverse (trying to go up hill) would not engage, the tires may turn a little and then all the power shut off.

I was able to clear the snow from the tires, get it moving forward with a little power and the second the traction control kicked in the car power shut down and it slid back into the bank.

I ended up having to take my floor mats out of the car and used them for each wheel and slowly inched it forward out of the snow bank and onto the hill.

The this is a pile of sh*t in the snow, a 2WD Miata is better than this huge POS boat.

BUYERS: Do not buy these if you want to drive in the snow or tow something heavy that needs to be backed up.
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GREAT in the snow!!!

I'm not sure what the OP is talking about.

My rating of the HyHi in the snow is a solid "8" (first experience so I won't give it a "10")

I live in Kentucky and we just got the mother of all storms and over two days received 11.5 inches on snow. I made it to work BOTH days with NO PROBLEM. I wasn't running any races so I drove at a "reasonable" speed for the conditions.

I was admittedly a little "concerned" after reading the issues, concerns and warnings that are posted in this thread - but the HyHi performed absolutly FLAWLESS. Too add to this, the streets in my subdivison are NOT plowed - so I had ~18" FROZEN ruts to nagivate through and around this morning - again with NO issue.

Just my actual, personal experience!
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Chains anyone?

I bought a set of chains for my front wheels (08 HiHY) but have not tried them yet. Has anyone got experience with chains? I'm planning to go to Tahoe next weekend.

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Some of these posts had me very nervous... but:

We still took our '09 Highlander Hybrid to Tahoe over President's Day Weekend. Locals will know there was a lot of snow that weekend. We did not have any problems and did not use chains.

Heading back down the pass, there were maybe only 3 times that the dash indicator light briefly flickered when it was losing traction at about 30-45mph - but it was totally manageable and we passed numerous other vehicles completely spun out - including one upside down.

It may just be me, but one other thing we noticed is that the "coast" speed of the Highlander Hybrid is slower than a normal SUV. When we took our last SUV down the hill, it had less friction and would gain speed pretty quickly - and thus require frequent braking. With the HiHybrid, we didn't have to brake that much - likely because even the coasting charges the battery a little and has to generate friction to do that. Not a negative at all, but was interesting.
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Im curious, if you pulled a fuse for the abs system, would the trac disable? You would get a light but most vehicle traction systems use the abs sensors to detect wheel spin. If the system was disabled, the trac control may not come on and then you may be able to use power and allow wheel spin until the fuse was put back (limp mode of sorts)
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The HH has an integrated safety system called VDIM and disabling any part of it by removing a fuse is not a good idea. As someone suggested earlier, the way to not lose traction is to use dedicated winter tires and there are many that can do the job or just use chains, if possible.

My suggestion, in keeping with others here, is to use snow tires if necessary, use chains if necessary. Or, check your stock tires. My '06 HH came with a set of Goodyear Integrity that were horrible for our area. The tires may be the problem and not the car. Even a fully loaded low-range capable 4x4 such as the HUMMER cannot do anything in lo4 if tires are no good for a given condition.

Please know that regardless of how powerful or how sophisticated a car, it is the contact-patch that counts in the end. If you lose contact for whatever reason, nothing works. There has been quite a lot of misperception about ABS, Traction Control and so on. People used to assume that ABS meant shorter stopping distance and they even deliberately modulate by stepping gently on their ABS-capable brakes resulting in crashes. There are people who assume that Traction Control meant better traction and promptly got themselves in deep trouble by sliding into ditches, getting stuck in mud tracks or just plan hydroplaning and skidding off a normal wet highway. There are also people who got two snow tires only and left the other two trying to save cash and they end up fishtailing in slippery icy condition.

If your tires do not perform well for your specific conditions, nothing else will work. Before thinking of tinkering with the car by disabling safety systems, please please please check your tires and please get all FOUR of the same type. The extra few hundred bucks up front will save you a LOT of pain later.

Good luck!

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Gagdetinspector,
I too have an 09 HiHy and live in Reno. I'm responding to your post about the trip to Tahoe. Were you using something other than the factory Toyo A20's? I too have been following this thread and am a little nervous, but I've been fine so far driving in the snow here.
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Gagdetinspector,
I too have an 09 HiHy and live in Reno. I'm responding to your post about the trip to Tahoe. Were you using something other than the factory Toyo A20's? I too have been following this thread and am a little nervous, but I've been fine so far driving in the snow here.
We have factory tires.
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Im using PNEU PIRELLI 235/55 R19 SC-ICE 105H XL M+S. They work pretty good in snow

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New Tire types for 2007 Highlander Hybrid

Got the bad news this week that the OEM Goodyear Integrity tires are nearly worn out (at only 25k miles) and there is no tread wear warranty on OEM tires. Nice. So need to replace pretty soon.

Two different shops have suggested:
Michelin Cross Terrain SUV (both guys)
Goodyear Fortera TripleTred (both guys)
Cooper CS4 Touring (one guy)
Nokian WRG2 (one guy)

I am leaning towards the Michelin Cross Terrain SUV. I have had great luck with other Michelin's. Not much luck with any Goodyears, and do not know much about Cooper or Nokian.

We live in New England and need good winter driveability. I realize none of these are particularly high rated for "low-rolling-resitance", but do not care much. The Integritys drove very poorly and I will sacrafice 1-2 MPG in exchange for better handling and driveability.

Thanks much for any suggestions or experienced tips out there.
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Goodyear Fortera TripleTred and Nokian SUV WR G2 both carry the "Severe Service" emblem or Snowflake on the mountain badge.

We have the Fortera TripleTred for 3-season and the older Nokian WR SUV for winter driving.

Fortera TripleTred is stiffer but quiet and rolls well. Maintains air pressure well, wears quite well. In pouring rain, it has been stable and solid. In snow, at or below 45-MPH, it is solid and surefooted. We do not go over 45 in snow. On ice, at 15-MPH and lower on clear and dirty packed ice, it also works fine for us. The VDIM comes on periodically but steering holds straight and the car goes where we point. Stopping on ice is quite good with some ABS assist. It always stops within the time and distance we expected. On black ice in the mountains, we can see the VDIM blink but the car keeps tracking fine.

In dry weather, the TripleTred makes our '06 HH drive like a higher performance car. It can take a 90-deg backcountry turn at 25-MPH easy if you know how to drive it. The old Integrity would bounce and lean all over forcing me to slam on the brakes. On winding mountain roads, the TripleTred is surefooted, and the car is responsive and tight. On flat freeway through deserts of CA and NV, they track straight and true, rides smooth and quiet.

The Nokian WR SUV (first gen, not G2) is fantastic in winter condition. Much better in snow and ice than the tripletred. Less ABS action stopping on ice and very fast stopping. It plows through fresh or hard-packed snow like nothing. The car handles really tight on ice and snow. In the mountains, driving over the same stretch of roads, we either never hit black ice or the tires are so grippy, the VDIM never even activated once.

In slush snow, around corners, anything at or under 15-MPH works beautifully. A bit faster, VDIM comes on. I cannot sense why through the steering but my wife thinks it is probably lateral grip problem. Again, nothing that makes us feel nervous, no fishtaliing, the VDIM blinks and the car keeps turning and gets rolling.

In wet weather, it is an even match. In dry weather, the tripletred wins in responsiveness but only by a hair. It responds just a hair faster than the Nokian. Nokian is slightly louder on freeways but nothing bothersome.

In terms of rolling resistance, the TripleTred is grippy but stiff so it is not too bad. No data on the Nokian because we have had them for only two Winters, hard to say if rolling resistance is helping or hurting. The tripletred gets about 26 MPG combined. The Nokian gets 22-24 in Winter depending on terrain.

Of the two, I prefer the TripleTred for its sporty handling in dry weather but the Nokian for absolute dead-solid handling in snow and ice.

Hope this helps.

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