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  1. Sway bar options for 7th-gen Camrys? (Thread restart)

    Camry 7th Generation (2012-2017)
    Clarification: This appeared in Toyota's press release in early 2012 about the then-new 7th-gen Camry: "Like all Toyota models, the Camry will feature Toyota’s Star Safety SystemTM standard, which includes Vehicle Stability Control (VSC), Traction Control (TRAC), Anti-lock Braking System...
  2. Sway bar options for 7th-gen Camrys? (Thread restart)

    Camry 7th Generation (2012-2017)
    Greetings, Thought I'd consolidate and update the thread by this same name started on 3/31/14. There's not much left of the original content, so the rendition will be choppy. I'll insert comments between recaptured pertinent posts in parentheses to try to fill-in significant gaps. I'll also...
  3. 17 Camry XSE with JBL ENTUNE Audio Plus. Saids it has 8 speakers in 10 locations but

    Camry 7th Generation (2012-2017)
    "The speakers just need to be efficient and clean. Most of the JBL/Harman sound comes from the cabin eq tuning and DSP. Even the greatest speakers can sound like garbage with bad source and eq." There are a few million vehicles on the road where I've had a significant hand in designing one or...
  4. 17 Camry XSE with JBL ENTUNE Audio Plus. Saids it has 8 speakers in 10 locations but

    Camry 7th Generation (2012-2017)
    Aside from the matter of the value of getting fewer speakers than you believed you paid for, if the performance of the system is good (loud with low distortion, wide bandwidth, good soundstaging,) then the number of speakers is thoroughly incidental. In some cars it's done with just four; with...
  5. Soft versus stiff springs

    Camry 7th Generation (2012-2017)
    Thanks - I remember reading that book years ago! Your Honda (and if I remember correctly, a picture of your white Camry,) both look quite nice. I, too, prefer a low stance, but I just shudder to think (pun intended) what happens when a suspension is biased too close to bottoming. Best, Mark
  6. Soft versus stiff springs

    Camry 7th Generation (2012-2017)
    On the other hand... I just had another conversation with my friend who's been designing and setting-up performance suspensions for cars for decades. He's the author of the book "How to Make Your Muscle Car Handle" (shameless plug...
  7. 2018 camry FIRST PHOTOS, review and tail light

    Camry 8th Generation (2018+)
    For me the strangest aspect of the 2018's appearance is the odd sculpting of the C-pillar. Have to admit it will take me a while to get used to that. About the photo (XSE?) seen three posts back, the look is indeed quite busy, with lots of creases and accents that draw attention away from the...
  8. Soft versus stiff springs

    Camry 7th Generation (2012-2017)
    Hi Esoteric, Thanks - that was helpful. The only thing that concerns me is that to get a good pitch response from the car, the factory usually designs the rear vertical resonant frequency to be roughly 20% higher than at the front. Back-engineering Toyota based on your numbers, I get: 1...
  9. 2018 camry FIRST PHOTOS, review and tail light

    Camry 8th Generation (2018+)
    This is the most enlightening information I've found yet about the 2018 Camry from a driving perspective: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/toyota/camry/2018/2018-toyota-camry-prototype-drive-review/ Enjoy. The reviewer seems quite impressed with the improvement in handling dynamics over the...
  10. 2018 camry FIRST PHOTOS, review and tail light

    Camry 8th Generation (2018+)
    "More weight means more inertia and it['s] never good for hugging corners... It's just the law of physics..." Not necessarily true. Adding weight low and to the rear of a very front-heavy car can be one of the exceptions. Or, sometimes, adding mass below a vehicle's roll axis. About all race...
  11. 2018 camry FIRST PHOTOS, review and tail light

    Camry 8th Generation (2018+)
    Hi Kitacamry, Eh - not so simple. I've had direct experience on both sides of that fence. Engineer or not, PR man or not, if he's knowingly lying, then he deserves the pink slip. Best, Mark
  12. 2018 camry FIRST PHOTOS, review and tail light

    Camry 8th Generation (2018+)
    Hi Folks, Unfortunately it's really tough to prove/disprove "best." There are so many different aspects to the consideration, that calling one car's driving experience "best" is almost as vague as claiming that hamburgers are the "best" sandwich in the world. The subjective aspect enters...
  13. 2018 camry FIRST PHOTOS, review and tail light

    Camry 8th Generation (2018+)
    Adding weight to a Camry in the rear, and low in the chassis, is actually close to the best place to put it to counteract the poor weight distribution that FWD tends to afford. Such a shift in COM should reduce understeer. So, yes, I can believe that the hybrid offers what the chief engineer...
  14. 2018 camry FIRST PHOTOS, review and tail light

    Camry 8th Generation (2018+)
    Hi Got-Rice and folks, Interesting point about the chairman of the company influencing the appearance of the car. Maybe the point brought-up by David Molson about the appearance missing the (certain) mark is valid to the extent that my assertion about design teams and focus groups, may have...
  15. Soft versus stiff springs

    Camry 7th Generation (2012-2017)
    And that post was mostly out of context. Let's straighten-out some things: As with most theoretical, hypothetical discussions, numbers were rounded-off and exaggerated to clarify a point. If I were anti-coilover, I would not have made the comment that I thought he glossed-over the...
  16. 2018 camry FIRST PHOTOS, review and tail light

    Camry 8th Generation (2018+)
    Hi Hardtopte72, I can certainly see your point. But aside from traction in snow, what would really benefit the Camry would be a switch to RWD. But then, the engineers would add 400lb to it, and it becomes a slow Lexus. Too bad... Best, Mark
  17. 2018 camry FIRST PHOTOS, review and tail light

    Camry 8th Generation (2018+)
    Hi Great Avalon, It is a good design change, only I think it's more needed up front than at the rear. Too bad that it would require a switch to RWD, or at least longitudinal rather than transverse FWD, to free-up the requisite space. To keep a car already famous for ponderous understeering...
  18. Soft versus stiff springs

    Camry 7th Generation (2012-2017)
    Hi Folks, Came across this Youtube video that I think nicely explains the pro's and con's of soft and stiff springs: Although the presenter somewhat glosses-over the benefits of stiff springs for the track, the basic discussion is sound and understandable even by the average person. His...
  19. 2018 camry FIRST PHOTOS, review and tail light

    Camry 8th Generation (2018+)
    Leaving looks aside for the time being (as I said before, I've never been much of a fan of the Camry's appearance, and I think the 2018 design passes from the former merely "Eh," to "OK,") what really excites me is the change in chassis, suspension, and motor. Curious - very curious - why they...
  20. 2018 camry FIRST PHOTOS, review and tail light

    Camry 8th Generation (2018+)
    Everyone, The automotive industry is strongly driven by style, and it would take an administration of fools to bankroll the future of a product like a Camry "not caring" how it looked. You can bet your bottom dollar that design teams obsessed long and hard on the appearance of the car, and...
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