Then you're a lucky, um, turtle-man!Turtleboy said:I used premium for the first 2000 miles and than tried regular grade and did not notice and power loss or mileage loss. Been using 87 for the past 3000 miles and now with the money I save, I can get a 40oz, bag of chips and give the change to the bum outside every fill up.![]()
So I am clear on this as this has been a concern of mine as a probable buyer of the new V6, Toyota is able to retard the timing enough so that there is no long term damage to the engine if you use 87?ghindman said:good lord
With engines that cannot retard the timing far enough, you're running the risk of damaging your engine by running out-of-spec fuel.
did he re-set his computer when he started running regular gas?EngineerBoo said:Then you're a lucky, um, turtle-man!
My Father-in-law broke-in his Tundra on high-octane and, now, he can't use anything else.
Boo
yes, you should be safe. I am sure most of the people who buy Totota's just put whatever is the cheapest gas out there and Toyota should be smart enough to know this and to make their vehicles run safely on regular gas.Loudnoud said:So I am clear on this as this has been a concern of mine as a probable buyer of the new V6, Toyota is able to retard the timing enough so that there is no long term damage to the engine if you use 87?
FACT is you would be pinging bad if engine could not retard enough.. You would be able notice and up grade gas to next highter grade.ghindman said:good lord
Lots of opinion, little fact.
Needing higher octane gas is not BS, it's simple mechanics. The more power you try to get out of a small engine, the higher the compression, and the higher the risk of detonation. While it's true that the Toyota ECU is able to retard the timing enough to eliminate detonation using 87, or they would require premium, that timing adjustment will rob you of performance. With engines that cannot retard the timing far enough, you're running the risk of damaging your engine by running out-of-spec fuel.
Does this engine require Premium? No.
Are you losing performance by not running Premium? Yes. Maybe not enough for you to notice, depending on how you drive, but there is loss.
Is the fact that some engines simply do require premium BS? No.
decoy562 said:You can do a search on this, it has been talked about many times.
That said, it's recommended for optimum performance, but not needed. I use 89...alot of guys just use 87 and are fine.