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Wow that's a fantastic amount of power. I can only think of a handful of production cars that have more power being the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo, some Koenigsseggs, Veyron, Berlinetta, Aventador, later Zondas and the Huayra. Power bargain of the century.
 

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Chevy thought the Camaro ZL-1 was all that, and then the Snake bit back. Hope people realize how cooler the Stangs are. Just went to Vegas this past weekend, and saw a few new 2013 rentals. While I hate the taillights (because the 2010-12 LEDs were seemingly perfect and look cool with the sequential), the car definitely looks better than the Camaro, especially now that HIDs are standard equipment on all of them.
 

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Who cares, its a Ford.



You know the thing I always have to wonder about cars like this is just exactly where are you supposed to fully enjoy a production car with over 600 hp? Frankly anything over 300 hp in a production car is pretty much a complete waste of time and effort. Driving a 600 hp production car on city streets is like using a flame thrower to get the charcoal in your grill lit for a cookout. The only place you can actually drive cars like these to their full potential is on a race course and how often do you actually get to do that? I for one wouldn't buy a car that I couldn't fully enjoy and I sure wouldn't buy one that I could only fully enjoy when I got the rare opportunity and time to go put it on a race course. The rest of the time I guess they just putt around at far below their performance potential like some race horse that's been confined to a walking trail. Worse yet they just sit in someone's garage until the few rare occasions roll around when they can be taken out to some track to be driven to their potential. Pictures were made to sit and be looked at, not cars. Car's are made to be driven and if you can't fully enjoy your car it's just a waste of time. Hence, cars like this are a waste of time and money.
 

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Tell me Xenos, is the BRZ/FT-86 also a complete waste of time and money, after all, where can you enjoy it to it's fullest potential? I am pretty sure pulling .91g's on public streets is illegal and dangerous. ;)

Same goes for the LFA too then, right?
 

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Chevy thought the Camaro ZL-1 was all that, and then the Snake bit back. Hope people realize how cooler the Stangs are. Just went to Vegas this past weekend, and saw a few new 2013 rentals. While I hate the taillights (because the 2010-12 LEDs were seemingly perfect and look cool with the sequential), the car definitely looks better than the Camaro, especially now that HIDs are standard equipment on all of them.
Them ZL1 owners will be shaking in their boots when they see this in their rear view mirrors...



I'd take the GT500 anyday.
 

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Who cares, its a Ford.



You know the thing I always have to wonder about cars like this is just exactly where are you supposed to fully enjoy a production car with over 600 hp? Frankly anything over 300 hp in a production car is pretty much a complete waste of time and effort. Driving a 600 hp production car on city streets is like using a flame thrower to get the charcoal in your grill lit for a cookout. The only place you can actually drive cars like these to their full potential is on a race course and how often do you actually get to do that? I for one wouldn't buy a car that I couldn't fully enjoy and I sure wouldn't buy one that I could only fully enjoy when I got the rare opportunity and time to go put it on a race course. The rest of the time I guess they just putt around at far below their performance potential like some race horse that's been confined to a walking trail. Worse yet they just sit in someone's garage until the few rare occasions roll around when they can be taken out to some track to be driven to their potential. Pictures were made to sit and be looked at, not cars. Car's are made to be driven and if you can't fully enjoy your car it's just a waste of time. Hence, cars like this are a waste of time and money.
I love cars as much as the next gear head but in reality people view cars as appliances, hence why Shelby GT500s don't sell 60k a year. Of course you knew that anyway. You're right, cars like this you rarely if ever hit the limit and most owners won't. But there's more than just hitting the limit. If you want you can get a BRZ/FT-86 or a Miata which the limits come quicker so its actually fun in that respect. It seems from the other posts no one can win with you, you find something to complain about when someone comes out with a performance car. You are well entitled to your opinion and not everyone likes a car like this, and that's perfectly fine that's why they have different kinds of markets and sports cars. The BRZ/FT-86 is not enough power and this is too much, you confuse me.:thumbsup::thumbsup::chug:

Chevy thought the Camaro ZL-1 was all that, and then the Snake bit back. Hope people realize how cooler the Stangs are. Just went to Vegas this past weekend, and saw a few new 2013 rentals. While I hate the taillights (because the 2010-12 LEDs were seemingly perfect and look cool with the sequential), the car definitely looks better than the Camaro, especially now that HIDs are standard equipment on all of them.

ZL-1 is nice but its a pig. The next gen platform based on the ATS will be lighter so the Camaro will be more competitive with the Stang. Yeah ZL-1 owners probably won't be too happy but its also brand loyalty so regardless of the numbers they will probably still buy it. Both are great cars and obviously no slouches.
 

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You know the thing I always have to wonder about cars like this is just exactly where are you supposed to fully enjoy a production car with over 600 hp? Frankly anything over 300 hp in a production car is pretty much a complete waste of time and effort. Driving a 600 hp production car on city streets is like using a flame thrower to get the charcoal in your grill lit for a cookout. The only place you can actually drive cars like these to their full potential is on a race course and how often do you actually get to do that? I for one wouldn't buy a car that I couldn't fully enjoy and I sure wouldn't buy one that I could only fully enjoy when I got the rare opportunity and time to go put it on a race course. The rest of the time I guess they just putt around at far below their performance potential like some race horse that's been confined to a walking trail. Worse yet they just sit in someone's garage until the few rare occasions roll around when they can be taken out to some track to be driven to their potential. Pictures were made to sit and be looked at, not cars. Car's are made to be driven and if you can't fully enjoy your car it's just a waste of time. Hence, cars like this are a waste of time and money.
There's a lot of silliness and irrational things in the world of cars. Many Corvettes are driven by old men who treat them like they're made out of paper, when ideally they should be driven by younger people thrashing them. Probably 99.9% of Mitsubishi Evos and Subaru Impreza WRX STis never go rallying. Convertibles where the open top was used only once. There's a lot of irrational behaviour when it comes to cars, your last topic mentioned SUVs and yeah they're very stupid when thinking about it rationally...yet it didn't stop millions from buying them.
 
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