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2022/2023 Corolla SE Sedan vs. 2022/2023 Corolla SE Hatchback

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I know the Corolla SE Sedan cost more than the Corolla SE Hatchback and is a larger car than the hatchback with much more cargo space.

Does this mean the Sedan is going to have a better more quiet ride as well as comfortable ride over the hatchback model on real world roads?

Both of these cars have the same 2.0 169 HP engine.
What are the performance specifications differences between these two cars with different bodystyles with the same engine?
Weight differences?

CVT vs. 6 spd. manual transmission performance?
I can drive either transmission but which transmission is going to be more reliable, with less problems and last longer? The CVT has been on the Corolla since 2018 and is warrantied by Toyota for 5 years. So now what does the test of time say about the Toyota CVT transmission?

Which Corolla SE between the Sedan and Hatchback will be more reliable, better comfortable ride with less road noise/engine noise?
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And lack of rear leg room.
I didn't find any difference between sedan and HB for leg room...

For handling, I love my go cart HB. Next summer it will need new tires, I'll likely go 235, and I have a FSTB on the way, so cornering should be even more fun ;)
 
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Hatchback is 10 inches shorter than sedan: 5 inches less rear leg room, 5 inches less cargo floor area.
My kiddo sits in the back <5% of the time I drive the car, and she does not care LOL. Cargo wise all Costco stuff that doesn't fit into hatch goes onto back seat. My hatch also has a sub box so my cargo space has 13" less room than sedan ;)

As far as the leg room in the front goes, when I test drove the two I couldn't tell the difference:

HB front leg room 42"
Sedan front leg room 42.3"
 
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When we test drove we quickly discovered we didn't like the sedan. Driving position, materials used, personal preferences, value were all much better in the HB IMO. If we hadn't test drove we wouldn't have experienced this difference and that's why it's so important to actually test drive. After test driving we would not buy the sedan, but we really liked the HB package, not perfect, but overall a great value and very comfortable for us. I'm very tall as well and no problem fitting in the front seat on either. Due to the different driving position I felt the HB feel was just better for my preferences and body type. My wife felt the same and she very small. So you really need to test drive and these people who don't just blow my mind.

We don't have a spare tire so we have that BS enhanced cargo capacity and we are able to fit in one large suitcase, 2 large duffle bags, several small bags and 1 carry on suitcase without putting the back seats down and still using the privacy cover. Now in our Yaris sedan we could put in 2 large suitcases instead of one large and one small with all the other stuff, and we can fit 2 large suitcases in the HB, but it's less efficient than jamming it full with smaller bags etc in collaboration.
💯 support the comment about test driving. IMO the two, HB and sedan, drive very differently and only by test driving or renting for a few days one can truly appreciate either...

Given HB is my commuter car, my primary criteria was the drive, and secondary was audio. JBL was not available at the time, but I made my own audio upgrades shortly after purchase. HB was a perfect match.

If space is your primary or secondary criteria, then HB will be a tough sell. FWIW, Costco TP pack can be crammed into hatch with the cover removed, although I prefer to put it on back seat and the groceries into hatch LOL
 
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The 2022 SE automatic transmission is not a standard CVT. It has an actual 1st gear then goes into the CVT. The LE has the standard CVT version.
As far as how quiet the sedan is. NOT AT ALL. Just bought my SE two weeks ago and as soon as I can I am going to pull the seats And rug and going to add sound deadening insulation. Love the car but it's noisy.
For 2022:
1.8L gas engine gets CVT
2.0L gas engine gets Direct Shift CVT

For 2023:
1.8L gas only is no longer offered
All grades of gas get 2.0L and DS-CVT

 

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From what I've read the start is what is the the hardest on the CVT. The physical 1st hear is supposed to elevate that issue. Ok
Actually, CVTs like staying at a fixed torque ratio so take off and cruising are ideal CVT states (high and low ratio). It is in between that's a challenge (slipping, whine, etc.). Straight from Toyota on DS-CVT:

 

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Will this direct shift CVT on a SE Corolla outperform a SE Corolla with 6 spd. manual transmission? or will CVT direct shift have any other advantages over the 6 speed manual transmission? :unsure:
Corolla with DS-CVT is 0.5~1.0 seconds slower 0-60 than its iMT counterpart. This is a lot to do with rev limiter on DS-CVT, it does not allow RPMs to get anywhere near red line, it forces it to "shift" about 1K below at all of its 10 "gears". Advantage of CVT over MT was always gas mileage. F1 did make an amazing high performance CVT, it was so good that it quickly got banned. So go figure...
 

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not true. I've hit 7000 before on my CVT with a tune on my Hatch.


Edit: It's not consistent by any means, usually it caps at 6700-6800 right at redline. But I've absolutely seen it happen.
Yeah, with a tune the shift RPM can be moved. 3+ years later I am yet to see it on my stock mapping and I try daily :LOL:
 
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And this is when you bought the car new or used?
I bought my HB new with 2.5 miles on odo...

Tires are a global commodity that is shared among all OEMs. So one week you may get Contis and another week Michelins or Bridgestones or whatever was allocated to Toyota when your car was built...
 

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I wonder what a set of 4 16 inch tires n wheels that come on the SE Corolla from the factory cost if bought separately as a spare set?
I have a set of FRS wheels as my winter set. I picked them up used locally...

I am sure you could find a used set of them locally for a fraction of dealer cost. Wheels and tires are much better priced in US than in Canada...
 

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I'm just wondering what the cost is for new factory tires n wheels for all 4 Corolla 16 inch tires n wheels.
You can call a local dealer parts dept, they will give you a quote rather quickly...
 

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Haven't heard good things about Hangkook. Have heard good stuff on Kumho
Both are Korean made. I had summer Hankooks on Maxima, they were OK...
 

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I had Hankooks on my Golf Wagon, and on a previous Golf TDI. Not great in the wet, and I have never had a tire brand give me so many flats, including on the TDI, a blowout at speed in the fast lane of the autoroute.
Hm, I had Ventus V-spec tires on TE37s on Maxima and drove on them their whole life without any issued in GTA, I liked them better than Bridgestone tires they replaced. They performed well at high speed as well.

At some point I had a set of their iPike winter tires on my ES, they were fine too. For winter tires, my fav were Gislaved Nordfrost, they were amazing on my RWD IS...
 

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So when you put on the Toyota factory touch up paint, the paint still had that shiny sparkle that metallic paint has? or was it a dull white spot?
070 pearl touchup paint is exactly that and matches well...

Before I got a bottle of 070 for mine, I had a pen with 040 so I tried it and there is a big noticeable difference between 070 and 040. So I went and bought 070 and redid the touchups...
 
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I test drove the hatch, it was garbage, rough, noisy, cramped, not really that much space in the trunk unless you keep the seats down, I told the salesman, this is garbage, he looked at me in kinda disgust, then we drove the sedan, he and the other passenger said almost together, what a difference. The sedan rides better, and is quiter, but still not worth $24,000 there are better cars out there for that money.
I am trading my 2022 SE Sedan in for a Hyundai. The CVT transmission is the worst there is, oh its good at first, but I am at 3500 miles and boy are they bad, vibrates, the fake shifting jerks worse than any car I have had, yes, it fakes gear shifts, and under aceleration, it will jerk the whole driveline, and tug the steering as it changes gear, and the engines, vibrate way too much, the sound sysytem is very poor, the infotainment crashes or freezes a lot.

The lane tracing is dangerous and I would not recommend using it,ive had in at the dealership, it pulls to the left and hugs the line, you will hit a wall or a car if using it, not fixed still the same, many others have complained too, AC, if you live in southern California will disappoint you, seats are good for a short 50 mile drive, town mpg is 22, freeway is 32 with out AC and driving around 75mph, I did get 42 once late at night just cruising around 70 with no AC.

I know if I hate it so much, why buy it, at the time within 200 miles that is all I could find, 3 corollas, and i am not paying $38,000 for a base camry, and my Mazda 3, it, got bought back under lemon law, so I needed a car.
Base Camry is in mid-20s, at $38K you are looking at top grade XSE:

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Why was your Mazda 3 a lemon?

I am glad you realize that Corolla may not a car for you. Hopefully Hyundai will be a better match.

Happy motoring!
 

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