[canadianae92]

I'm wondering what would be more worth it in the end the 20v ITBS onto my 16v or 20vSwap.

Is the 20v swap expensive or hard? Is their lots of difficulties?

Will the stock 4ag's transmission work with the 20v?

Would it just be better to use the 20vs trans?

Also are the Itb velocity stack things dangerous to your engine, what would you have to watch out for?

What else do I need other than the Engine trans and ecu?

I decided to stay n/a for my engine and I'd like ITBs with velocity stacks(I think thats what you call em, the little bells sticking out the ITBs)

 

[KnightX_AE86]

well for AE92 im not sure if u have to make room for the coils....
your stock 16v tranny will fit the 20v motor... but it'll b alot more fun if u do the 6speed tranny swap.... also i "think" u need to get a new altonator, harnest, & dizzy... check with itchy on the forums.. he has a BT 20V in his AE92.... so i think he would know best...
sorry i dun remember his user name but im sure some1 inhere will b ableto fill that in for me... good luck with everything

 

[canadianae92]

Thanks, the coils or velocity stacks or whatever(I think thats right? Is that what you ment?) will fit theres quita bit of room, also I've seen some that kinda bend upwards and around towards the front of the engine(towards the exhaust side) for fwd.

 

[Flashmn]

16V head is easier and cheaper to mod, and then slap on the ITB's.

 

[canadianae92]

That is true, the 20v parts are expensive an not many companies in north america make parts for em so those jdm parts take bites out of your wallet.

 

[REN69]

The 6spd tranny only runs with the Blacktop 20V ECU, so I guess Blacktop swap it is if you want a 6spd.

As for running ITBs on a 16V motor.. you do realize you will need an aftermarket system to manage it. $$$$$

And Ichi, you're looking for TRDragoon.

 

[KnightX_AE86]

^^^ haha i should of know that ren was gonna b the one whos gonna jump in here and help me out..... forum ho3 =P

 

[REN69]

:woot: :smokin:

 

[Flashmn]

Aftermarket systems dont have to be expensive... MEGASQUIRT! :lol:

sounds like the peter north of the car industry... hehehe

 

[canadianae92]

Yea I know what it involves 20v to 16v adaptor the actually itbs off a 20v and a aftermarket ecu. Performance isn't cheap.........

 

[REN69]

Aftermarket systems dont have to be expensive... MEGASQUIRT! :lol:

sounds like the peter north of the car industry... hehehe

considering they can be from $1000 to $2000.. yeah I guess that's cheap.

 

[Flashmn]

Megasquirt is around 200 bucks ready made.

 

[canadianae92]

Wow cheap, is it a full ecu or a piggy back? Is it good?

 

[Flashmn]

Full ecu, well... it works, some have made some better and more developed variants of it. Its basically a DIY Ecu for people who dont want to dish out 1000's of dollars for a brand name one. Its gotten to be a big hit here in finland.

 

[canadianae92]

How do you program a ecu? and I guess theres lots of wiring to be done?

 

[REN69]

DIY, exactly.

 

[Flashmn]

well you can get the ECU ready-assembled, yes there will be wiring, you can use alteast some of the existing sensors, programmed via laptop.

 

[canadianae92]

Ok, guess I'll have to get a cheap labtop or something sometime but I hate god damn wiring oh well guess it'll be a good learning experience Thanks for the help guys and merry christmas!!

 

[Dr Tweak]

The 6spd tranny only runs with the Blacktop 20V ECU, so I guess Blacktop swap it is if you want a 6spd.

As for running ITBs on a 16V motor.. you do realize you will need an aftermarket system to manage it. $$$$$

And Ichi, you're looking for TRDragoon.

I've yet to see any proof of this, and I HIGHLY doubt it's true. It's a mechanical tranny, it's shifted by linkage.

And you can also use the C60 from the 7th gen Celica GTS.

-Doc

 

[canadianae92]

Does it just bolt up?