We're talking about a Camry, not a Celica or MR2.A lot of mr2 peeps and celica peeps say the motor mounts will match up. Its only on this forum that I hear people say they don't.
Ok.. So that clears up then? A 5sfe does share the same motor mounts as a 3sge/3sgte if its on a celica or mr2, but not a camry. I don't really see why it would be different though. From my understanding, the 1mzfe shares the same motor mounts as the 5sfe on the celica and mr2. It would only be logical for the camry's 5sfe to have the same motor mounts. But well, sometimes things are weird like that.88 LE said:1. 3S-FE/GE/GTE don't not share the same mounts as a 5S-FE.
2. 3S-FE/GE/GTE all share the same block (3rd gen S block). However the internals are different on each.
3. Even though a 5S-FE uses different mounts vs. 3S-FE/GE/GTE, the holes for the front and rear engine mount (on the block) are there on both blocks (3S and 5S). However the mounts are in different places on a 3S and 5S.
So the difference is in the mounts and where they mount on the block and tranny.
4. Yes a 3S-GE/GTE will bolt right up on a gen 2, but only on the 4 cyl.
We're talking about a Camry, not a Celica or MR2.
3 out of the 4 1MZ motor mounts do match up in the MR2. One has to be custom fabricated. I think someone does it on the MR2 Message Board. I don't think anyone has gotten the VVT-i 1MZ to work either. 210hp/220lbs-ft would be nice in an MR2.TubRog5 said:From my understanding, the 1mzfe shares the same motor mounts as the 5sfe on the celica and mr2. It would only be logical for the camry's 5sfe to have the same motor mounts. But well, sometimes things are weird like that.
Ahh, I see. Camry's are a whole new world to me. I think I know something then find out its not entirely correct. I wasn't aware that the cams are different at all.91MR2quickNA said:3 out of the 4 1MZ motor mounts do match up in the MR2. One has to be custom fabricated. I think someone does it on the MR2 Message Board. I don't think anyone has gotten the VVT-i 1MZ to work either. 210hp/220lbs-ft would be nice in an MR2.
TubRog, if you have a Celica or MR2, get a 5S-FE from a Celica or MR2. The reason for that is the cams are a little more aggressive esp for 93 and up and the fuel injectors are 20ccs larger than 91-92 5S-FEs. The 5S-FE, no matter where it comes from, will bolt up to any chassis it was designed for. Any S series engine is cross-compatible, to my knowledge, on MR2s and Celicas. That includes the 3S-FE, GE, GTE and 5S-FE or GE/GTE if you have a hybrid. The only exception is the 3S-GTE from the Celica All-Trac. It's totally different and won't work in an MR2. I don't know of anyone who's done a 4WD conversion on a Camry, so I dunno about that.
The motor mounts themselves may be different on a Camry, but that's why you re-use your current motor mounts. The wiring harness and ECU should also be re-used unless it's from the same type of car. That'll avoid any problems.
To drop in a 3sgte celica engine into a mr2 you need to change out many parts such as all the engine mounting brackets,alternator,crank pully,and some other stuff.If you have a mr2 turbo then you could use the celica alltrac motor if going n/a to turbo it would be a big mistake to buy a alltrac celica motor.Hope this clears things up.
BTW I've done both (celica alltrac and mr2 turbo)motor swaps before,its not a hard swap if you know what your doing
All your questions are answered correctly but non of them as you what tranny, you plan to use... And the motor situation on a 3rd Gen camry, dominating factor is which tranny...TubRog5 said:Do they share the same motor mounts?
even with the 5s-fe tranny the motor still sit crooked ... unless its a 2nd Gen using the stock 3s-fe trans ... The motor mount between the 2 generations are alittle different...Zoni_Camry said:they work, but the engine MIGHT sit slightly crooked... but that might have been cause wraith was using the mr2 tranny though... thats where everyone got their info from.
It should work as just as long as you use the V6 axles also... You have to remember the MR2 turbo trans is also a e153 ... its the axle carrier thats different...Zoni_Camry said:3rd or 4th gen with camry e153, how about that...?