[fbi90909]

Hello guys.
I've been reading for a while on some of the DIY for the timing belt on this engine. I am a little puzzled on the tensioner though.
Most of the guides are saying to lock the tensioner down by retracting it in a vice or using a clamp or so.
When I had done the belt, pump and tensioner on my civic I had replaced it with a brand new tensioner which came pre retracted with a "grenade" pin so when the tensioner was in place and belt was all lined up all I had to do was pull the pin.
Does a brand new tensioner come already pre retracted with a pin or will I have to retract it, set the pin, then install?
Also, when buying all the parts for the belt and pump and etc, is it ok to use a timing belt and pump kit that are sold like on amazon?
The reson I ask is this is not my car. Normally I only buy OEM for peace of mind for my car but since it's not mine would it be ok to save some money on a kit or just go OEM from a parts store online?

Thanks guys.

 

[artbuc]

Hello guys.
I've been reading for a while on some of the DIY for the timing belt on this engine. I am a little puzzled on the tensioner though.
Most of the guides are saying to lock the tensioner down by retracting it in a vice or using a clamp or so.
When I had done the belt, pump and tensioner on my civic I had replaced it with a brand new tensioner which came pre retracted with a "grenade" pin so when the tensioner was in place and belt was all lined up all I had to do was pull the pin.
Does a brand new tensioner come already pre retracted with a pin or will I have to retract it, set the pin, then install?
Also, when buying all the parts for the belt and pump and etc, is it ok to use a timing belt and pump kit that are sold like on amazon?
The reson I ask is this is not my car. Normally I only buy OEM for peace of mind for my car but since it's not mine would it be ok to save some money on a kit or just go OEM from a parts store online?

Thanks guys.

I have not bought a new one myself but am quite sure it comes retracted based on what others have said. These hydraulic tensioners are almost always good for the life of the car. Unless it is leaking fluid, I would reuse the existing one.

I would not use any non-OEM parts on the TB system. I know there are some good kits out there that sell OEM parts, eg Mitsuboshi belt and Koyo bearings. Definitely replace the idler and tensioner pulleys.

 

[BMR]

I don't know about the tensioner, but I suspect the new ones would come retracted.

If you want OEM quality parts, get a kit with Aisin water pump, Koyo tensioner/idler, and for the belt, Mitsuboshi. Those are OEM suppliers to Toyota. Rockauto.com has that kit for $136, plus shipping. Or you can find it on eBay too.

 

[tef]

Mine came retracted with pin installed.

 

[JohnGD]

Unless the old one doesn't extend as specified or it leaks, you can always reuse it. Compress it with a c-clamp very slowly (so the pressure can bleed off slowly inside). It's easy to do, so no need to change it if it's still good.

For OEM parts look for Aisin timing belt and pump kits. There is also this Aircabinman on eBay who sells OEM kits. But consider changing out the following parts. I personally prefer Gates belts and hoses:

(Updated 4/2012, from Rockauto.com)
GATES K060410 Micro-V AT AC/Alt Belt $16.22
GATES K040347 Micro-V AT Power Steering Belt $10.82
STANT 48128 180° w/Jiggle Pin OE Type Thermostat $15.33
FEL-PRO TCS45889 Camshaft Front Seal $7.31
FEL-PRO TCS45890 Crankshaft Front Seal Set $5.19
GATES TCK257 (1 Belt, 1 Tensioner, 1 Idler) Timing Belt Component Kit $68.79
FEL-PRO VS50471R Valve Cover Gasket Set w/Spark plug tube seals $19.45
AISIN WPT057 Water Pump $60.79
Subtotal $203.9
Shipping about $20

GATES 21701 1-1/4"x23-1/2" Molded Coolant Hose, Upper $10.97
GATES 22048 1-5/16"x20-13/32" Molded Coolant Hose, Lower $9.80
Optional GATES T43096 Hydraulic Tensioner $39.89

 

[fbi90909]

Thanks for the responses guys. Will look into those kits from rockauto.

 

[landtoy80]

So with this kit from Rock Auto http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1798472&cc=1273564

With:
FEL-PRO TCS45889 Camshaft Front Seal $7.31
FEL-PRO TCS45890 Crankshaft Front Seal Set $5.19
Toyota Coolant.

Should I be good for a t-belt replacement? The valve cover is less than a month old so should be ok.
Do I need any more parts? I think I have what I need but just checking?

I just replaced the thermostat.
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1798472&cc=1273564

 

[JohnGD]

What thermostat did you use OEM? Have you changed the radiator hoses before? If not change them too. I recommend Gates hoses. Change the drive belts too (alt/ac, ps). The rear cam seal can be hard to access, and you'll need cam and crank pulley holding tools. Not sure if this one works for the V6 crank. See:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/1...e-made-tool-tighten-camshaft-sproket-nut.html

Later you can easily change the PCV valve/grommet and spark plugs etc. So no need to change these for now. Make sure you lube the shaft seals with assembly lube, general purpose grease, or just a good amount of motor oil so they don't run dry on startup.

 

[71Corolla]

Don't use Gates hoses, they don't always fit right, and are inferior to the originals. Use Toyota parts. You don't have the hydraulic tensioner in your list, but it can be reused most of the time.

 

[landtoy80]

I have the homemade crank holder tool (bar of steel with bolt on ends).
I thought about ordering the hydraulic tensioner but can't it be installed later if it looks to be leaking?

Toyota thermostat. I bought a Napa thermostat but it didn't have the wobbler valve. The OE Napa one has the wobbler but cost the price of OEM so I bought a Toyota thermostat.

I will check the hoses but...
I am on a laid-off budget so need to cut corners.

 

[JohnGD]

The tensioner can usually be reused. Just be careful handling the aged rubber dust cap. The piston rod should protrude 1 cm (0.394") and the seal under the dust cap should still be good and not leaking oil.

Sure, check the hoses and see if they're mushy. Check the fibers at the ends and see if they're stained by the coolant. If so they should be changed. If they're clean and white and have no unusual soft spots or cracks then they should be fine for now.