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Been enjoying my 2010 Corolla LE for a very long time since new and no issues besides reg maintenance until last thursday when after leaving a gas station the ABS, VSC and Track control (wavy track marks) went on - Brake light too but just for few seconds (tho it came on after a restart yesterday) -- So Decided to take to my original Toyota Dealer for diagnose ($60 fee) today. Waited for more than 3 hours ( listening to music, chatting on the phone) til the Advisor came on with some 'bad news' .. I needed to replace the ABS Actuator/Skid Control part 44050-12730 (used) as he wrote. Total cost 1297.88 plus Fla taxes. The Codes which I've asked for afterwards, because they didn't give me then were Repair Codes: C0279 and C1361..

Am I been quoted right for this Job?, Mighty expensive tho the car has been really good to me for 10 years. Does this sound right as far codes and part needed?

Thanks for any input as I'm not doing anything without a second opinion, maybe from another Svc Dept.
 

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If it was diagnosed as a fault in the actuator assembly solenoid relay circuit, as the error codes indicate, then they are on the right path.
The fault could be external to the assembly, power/wiring, or the relay internal to the assembly.
Dealer price for a used assembly is not much less than what you could buy a new one for.

Get your second opinion at an independent shop.
It may be that the assembly electrical relay module itself can be replaced or repaired if that's the problem.
This could save you hundreds.
 

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If it was diagnosed as a fault in the actuator assembly solenoid relay circuit, as the error codes indicate, then they are on the right path.
The fault could be external to the assembly, power/wiring, or the relay internal to the assembly.
Dealer price for a used assembly is not much less than what you could buy a new one for.

Get your second opinion at an independent shop.
It may be that the assembly electrical relay module itself can be replaced or repaired if that's the problem.
This could save you hundreds.
Thank you Sir. I will follow up with a second opinion at an independent shop. Does it have to be a Toyota specialist shop?

Also the part number they referenced seems to be the whole assembly (including where the brake lines connect) but I've seen (on youtube) someone replacing just the outside part ( solenoids) ?
 

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That would be my first choice however before they do any diagnosis ask the shop if they repair/replace just the electrical module found to be faulty.
If not then the price for the entire assembly will probably be closer to the dealer price.

Let us know how it goes.
If brakes are working fine now no need to hurry up the ABS repair.
 

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Hi Guys!
Been enjoying my 2010 Corolla LE for a very long time since new and no issues besides reg maintenance until last thursday when after leaving a gas station the ABS, VSC and Track control (wavy track marks) went on - Brake light too but just for few seconds (tho it came on after a restart yesterday) -- So Decided to take to my original Toyota Dealer for diagnose ($60 fee) today. Waited for more than 3 hours ( listening to music, chatting on the phone) til the Advisor came on with some 'bad news' .. I needed to replace the ABS Actuator/Skid Control part 44050-12730 (used) as he wrote. Total cost 1297.88 plus Fla taxes. The Codes which I've asked for afterwards, because they didn't give me then were Repair Codes: C0279 and C1361..

Am I been quoted right for this Job?, Mighty expensive tho the car has been really good to me for 10 years. Does this sound right as far codes and part needed?

Thanks for any input as I'm not doing anything without a second opinion, maybe from another Svc Dept.
Gas cap. See if that's been tightly put back on.
 

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That would be my first choice however before they do any diagnosis ask the shop if they repair/replace just the electrical module found to be faulty.
If not then the price for the entire assembly will probably be closer to the dealer price.

Let us know how it goes.
If brakes are working fine now no need to hurry up the ABS repair.
Appreciated, and I will.
 

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"Also the part number they referenced seems to be the whole assembly (including where the brake lines connect) but I've seen (on youtube) someone replacing just the outside part ( solenoids) ?"

Typically dealer wants to replace the whole assembly.
The electrical control module isn't available separate in their system.
 

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"Also the part number they referenced seems to be the whole assembly (including where the brake lines connect) but I've seen (on youtube) someone replacing just the outside part ( solenoids) ?"

Typically dealer wants to replace the whole assembly.
The electrical control module isn't available separate in their system.
I've thought for years that dealers are more 'replacement technicians' than mechanics.
 

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"Also the part number they referenced seems to be the whole assembly (including where the brake lines connect) but I've seen (on youtube) someone replacing just the outside part ( solenoids) ?"

Typically dealer wants to replace the whole assembly.
The electrical control module isn't available separate in their system.
Yes, the video I've watched (youtube) the guy just replaced the black part that seems to house the solenoid, is that the electrical control module you've referred? Thx
 

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Yes, most want to replace just the module if that is the problem.
Thanks, I have contacted a technician who works for Chevy and we were talking about a potential job/ project with this issue, do you know if to replace the whole assembly or even just the module, it needs to have some software flashed that only the dealer has access to it or if it's a straight process of remove and replace? - It seems this assembly is easily found on the market, perfectly functional ..

Wondering if the codes above gives any clue that replacing only the module would do the trick .. thx
 

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"It seems this assembly is easily found on the market, perfectly functional"
Very important to replace the exact module so as not to have compatibility problems.
If module faulty replace first. A software flash would be secondary if needed at all.

The codes indicate a problem in the module relay circuit.
Testing will determine if external or internal to the module.
 

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"It seems this assembly is easily found on the market, perfectly functional"
Very important to replace the exact module so as not to have compatibility problems.
If module faulty replace first. A software flash would be secondary if needed at all.

The codes indicate a problem in the module relay circuit.
Testing will determine if external or internal to the module.
Awesome, Thanks a lot! Will come back and post what has been done.
 

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"It seems this assembly is easily found on the market, perfectly functional"
Very important to replace the exact module so as not to have compatibility problems.
If module faulty replace first. A software flash would be secondary if needed at all.

The codes indicate a problem in the module relay circuit.
Testing will determine if external or internal to the module.
"It seems this assembly is easily found on the market, perfectly functional"
Very important to replace the exact module so as not to have compatibility problems.
If module faulty replace first. A software flash would be secondary if needed at all.

The codes indicate a problem in the module relay circuit.
Testing will determine if external or internal to the module.
"It seems this assembly is easily found on the market, perfectly functional"
Very important to replace the exact module so as not to have compatibility problems.
If module faulty replace first. A software flash would be secondary if needed at all.

The codes indicate a problem in the module relay circuit.
Testing will determine if external or internal to the module.
So while still deciding as what to do about this issue I've had another dealer get a shot a diagnosing the issue hoping they'd suggest another solution..The second shop came up with the same plan, replace the whole assembly.. The new part hovers around $2K price plus labor - The used one it's way cheaper. I'm thinking about going the used route or just keep using the car w/o ABS -- the issue is no one wants to bother try and diagnose in details - Just replace the whole assembly either new or used which will need the flushing of fluid and about 4 hours of labor they say
 

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Look for an independent shop.
They may be more receptive or DIY.
Looks like a simple change out once you have the right part.
 

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Look for an independent shop.
They may be more receptive or DIY.
Looks like a simple change out once you have the right part.
Look for an independent shop.
They may be more receptive or DIY.
Looks like a simple change out once you have the right part.
Thanks and I have contacted a Tech who's coming to test this at my place - He works for Buick.

When you say the codes lead to faulty 'Module Relay Circuit', is it the part that attaches to the Pump assembly and has the solenoid set on it ( 4 bolts to attach)? It seems that's an easy task to do and see if it'll fix the issue. Buying the whole assembly refurbish or salvage, the removing that part and replacing might be the way to go, at least to try and solve the issue without paying big bucks upfront. Should I try to find the exact part number installed in the car or the one the dealer wrote on the estimate ( if I'm using just the Module Relay Circuit) then might be better to find the exact part.. The part number the dealer wrote might be an updated version of the same I have from factory.. Thanks again for your input CJ!
 

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"When you say the codes lead to faulty 'Module Relay Circuit', is it the part that attaches to the Pump assembly and has the solenoid set on it ( 4 bolts to attach)?"
Yes the module attached with 4 bolts.
Toyota part number probably for the entire assembly .
Look for the module part number by itself.

On second thought probably not a part number for module itself so match part number of assembly in vehicle and go from there.
 

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"When you say the codes lead to faulty 'Module Relay Circuit', is it the part that attaches to the Pump assembly and has the solenoid set on it ( 4 bolts to attach)?"
Yes the module attached with 4 bolts.
Toyota part number probably for the entire assembly .
Look for the module part number by itself.

On second thought probably not a part number for module itself so match part number of assembly in vehicle and go from there.
Thanks Sir. Tech said he'll test the circuits to the module before we order the assembly from a salvage depot. He'll stop by this friday to start.
 
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