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Hey guys, I'm attempting the dreaded spark plugs on my V6. Can any one suggest a good combination of extensions and u-joints to let my socket wrench get to those tricky back plugs? I want to do this without taking the whole intake off.

On that note, I'll be happy to accept advice on how to go the intake route with minimal damage, too.
 

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It will seem impossible at first but it can be done. I didn't want to remove the snake bundle because 1-more work, 2-chance of vacuum leaks afterwards. It is not easy but is possible, i recommend several pairs of rubber gloves, plenty of time, and even more patience to start with.

-The best socket sets to use are 1/4" type and 3/8" type. Forget your 1/2" set its of little use here. Have At least one u-joint type socket connector, two is better.
Have socket extensions of varying lengths from the shorties to a 6" long one.

-Use masking tape to hold the socket extensions and the spark plug socket together, it will save you a lot of trouble of chasing down falling socket extionsions.

-The plug closest to the front (where the belts are) of the engine is naturally, easiest to access from the passenger side, the back one is best accessed from the drivers side. I accessed the middle one by actually laying down across the engine and going in from the drivers side opening. You can partly see what you are doing through the small gap in the plenum but you are going to do most of it by feel not by sight.

-the way i did it was this, i would guess which extensions would work then tape them together and to the spark plug socket. Leaving the socket wrench unattached, i would drop the spark plug socket onto the plug (after removing thec oil packs of course). After some trial and error and rearranging sockets and u-joint attacthments til i got the spark plug socket on, then i'd attach the wrench and loosen. With all the u joint attachments you might be using, you're turning the wrench at very odd angles, but you still ought to be able to get the plug out (hopefully it is not seized in place!)

-To put the new plug in: I always use high temp anti sieze on the threads (since i dont know if i will be doing this again on this car, but if i do i want to make it easy as possible next time.)
Put the spark plug into the socket and lightly secure it to the socket with one piece of masking tape maybe an inch or two long (so it will tear off easily). This is so the plug doesnt fall out as you go to put it into its hole.
Start the plug in by hand, by turning the socket extention. It should go in easily, if it doesn't, and you feel resistance, pull the plug out a bit and start over. You will feel when it catches the threads so keep turning it by hand until it stops. Then reattach the socket wrench and tighten firmly i.e. nice and tight, but not with all your might.

I don't know how you'd torque the plug doing this, since all the attachments are going to affect the torque reading and probably make it wrong. So i just get them good and tight but not white knuckle tight.
 

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Alright I just did this job myself, and I can say that it was as much of a pain in the ass as I expected. And I have a tough time believing that the guy at the factory applied any antisieze when installing these plugs. They were in there solid. Oddly enough, the passenger side and middle plugs were easy to get out (10 min each to find right socket combo and carefully work them out). The driver side one was a mess. It took me about an hour to get it out because it was stuck solid, and I was afraid of breaking the plug off. Eventually, I squirted some PB blaster down the hole, waited a while, and then the plug came loose.

Anyway, here are a few things I learned incase anyone else is reading this:

1. driver's side: remove the air filter box and the plastic box that exists between the air filter and the throttle body

2. this is a great time to clean your throttlebody

3. passenger side: detach the grounding strap on the side of the intake. Remove the hose that connects to the PCV valve

4. bolts that hold coils in: I tried to get them out with a 1/4 drive socket, but had much better luck with a flat ratcheting wrench. You just need to break them loose, then you can do the rest with your fingers.

5. Coil plugs: These things do not want to come off. The worst one was the passenger side coil. It was wedged up against the engine wire harness, so I couldn't pull it out. I removed the coil bolt, and lifted the coil out of the hole a little to give the plug some more room to back out.

6. Plugs. My stock plugs looked amazing considering they had 100k miles on them. Definitely don't skimp on your replacement plugs. This job is such a PITA that you won't want to redo it for another 100k miles.

7. Since the back ones are so tough and the front ones are so easy, I taught my 6-year old how to change the front plugs. He did all three with barely any help (beside my instruction) in about 15 minutes.

So there you go, front ones can be done by a six year old. Back ones take a grown adult a few hours. whoopee.
 

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5. Coil plugs: These things do not want to come off. The worst one was the passenger side coil. It was wedged up against the engine wire harness, so I couldn't pull it out. I removed the coil bolt, and lifted the coil out of the hole a little to give the plug some more room to back out.
5. I'm going to use anti-sieze compound when I change mine.

6. Plugs. My stock plugs looked amazing considering they had 100k miles on them. Definitely don't skimp on your replacement plugs. This job is such a PITA that you won't want to redo it for another 100k miles.
Agreed. On my 2002 V6, they recommend changing the stock plugs every 30,000 miles. Any recommendations for 100,000 mile plugs?

Thanks, Ron
 

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I have a 2002 v6, too. I think I was actually supposed to change these things at 70k but I let it slide. Go to any parts place and find their iridium plug. i think I bought NGK brand. They end up costing about $6 per plug, but I'll gladly pay the extra $20 per set just to put off this miserable job for a while.
 
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