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Okay, here goes...
My friend drives an imported Jap spec Toyota Camry 1991model. It's V6 and runs perfectly fine.
Just today, he wanted me to install an aftermarket cheap airfilter cone on his car. Long story.
Point is when i popped his bonnet and started removing the airbox, i notice there was this chuck in metal there between the pipe and airbox. So i didn't know what this is, i think its an oxygen sensor or air flow meter. I thought the car could just run without it, then i done a short ram with some PVC pipin' and etc. Problem is i couldnt fit the airfilter, and had to go out and buy another pipe that could fit.
So i connected back the original airbox and now the car won't start. I've checked the spark plugs and theres no spark, i checkd the fuses and alternator etc. Basicly theres no problem.
When you turn the key, the engine sounds like its struggling to start, but trust me theres enough battery left.

What could the problem be??
And do i need that chuck in metal bit when installing an aftermarket airfilter or can i just cut the chord and throw it away??
 

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riceboi said:
Do i need that chuck in metal bit when installing an aftermarket airfilter or can i just cut the chord and throw it away??
You need the box (AFM - air flow meter).

The engine will not run without it.

You also need a AFM adapter. It converts the rectangular opening on the AFM into a round opening.

 

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Okay, that solves one of my questions.
Next is, by screwing around with this AFM, could this be the problem why the car isnt starting ?
 

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Next is, by screwing around with this AFM, could this be the problem why the car isnt starting ?
What exactly did you do with the AFM?

Did you remove the 2 screws on the connector and yank on it? If so your looking at a new AFM unless you can fix it.
 

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Nope, basicly pulled it out from the main pipin' with the top of the air box connected to the AFM. Then i didnt know if it was important or not, so i just opened the electronic looking wire thing with rubber around it .. by opening two screws..
then pullin it out.. i saw all this electrical crap.. so i put it back together not wanting to tamper with it.
Then basicly found out i didnt have the correct pvc pipes etc. and i placed the the AFM and original airbox and filter all back. Then wont start.
 

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I just opened the electronic looking wire thing with rubber around it .. by opening two screws.. then pullin it out.. i saw all this electrical crap.. so i put it back together not wanting to tamper with it.
Thats what I asked you above.

By removing the 2 screws on the connector and yanking on it, you screwed up the AFM.

You got 2 choices.

1. Get another AFM from a junkyard, etc.. Make sure you get one off a Camry with V6.

2. Cut around the black plastic cap on top of the AFM (its sealed with silicone), pry the cover off, and see if you can fix the connections.
 

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But how can i screw up the connector, if i just unscrewed the connector.. i only move it out a little bit and saw the wires.. so i replace it back in.. within 30secs. And i didnt yank it out with force.

Can the AFM be damaged so easily like that?
 

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You didn't screw up the connector. You screwed up the connections from the connector to the AFM.

Theres a lot of connections on the connector. About 6 or so.

Now if one of those connections break, your screwed.

Trust me on this. Your not the first person that has unscrewed the 2 screws on the connector and yanked it out.

The engine will not run without a properly functioning AFM.
 

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Okay thanx.
I might just buy a new AFM, then modfiy the outlet to a circular one then finish off the project from there. Hopefully it runs.

Hmmz. does a camry have an inertia switch ?? Could this be the problem ? Because, there's no spark when i tested the spark plugs. So i dont really think its the connection between the afm and the connector.
 

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Its the AFM, it tell the ECU how much air is flowing to the engine. Without it ECU don't know how much fuel to put into the engine.
BTW, everything in the car have a reason to be there. Unless you know exectly what it does, don't just remove it and hope the car will run. Manufacturer don't put stuff there just for fun.
 

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i only move it out a little bit and saw the wires.. so i replace it back in.. within 30secs
As if time has something to do with it getting broken or not :lol: If you yank on wires and they get disconnected, I dont see the difference with 1sec and 10secs when it happens :D

You do know the saying, "if you cant cook, stay out of the kitchen" applies to cars too, if you dont know what something does, dont fiddle with it, you might mess it up, the AFM's arent exactly that cheap, atleast where I come from they go for about 400-500USD.
 

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Thnx guys, i fixed it.
Just had to put the connection bit in tighter, because it was kinda loose. Now the my friends camry runs with a cheapo air filter cone. HAHA
Sounds good, but don't think there was much of a change, oh wells least it workd out. He quotes "i pick up better low end power now off the lights". So to him i guess it does make a difference.
 
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