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Wassup everybody!

I am in the market for a new Camry Hybrid but I was wondering if you guys could tell me what the differences between the 2008 and 2009 model are?

I live in Vancouver BC up in Canada and the 2008's up here, type B package after all gov't rebates are going for $36, 800 on the road and they're offering 3.9% financing on it b/c they want to clear the showroom for the 2009 model. The 2009 model type B Camry Hybrid is going for about $38,200 but the financing on it is 8.2% which is way too high, but I really like the navigation system in it (the only one difference I have found between the two models). So my question to my fellow Camry lovers is can Toyota put the naviagation system into the 2008 model b/c economically it seems feasible to get the 2008 right, but I want that navigation system though and of course the premium JBL sound system too. Anyways get back to me guys I want to hear what you guys have to say, thanks.
 

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The Navigation is (I believe) the same on both '08s and '09s...in fact there are no differences at all as far as I can find...with the possible exception of the cupholders-see my thread on '09s for reference
 

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2009 is the first year to get factory navigation in Canada, so it's a difference here.

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Wassup everybody!

I am in the market for a new Camry Hybrid but I was wondering if you guys could tell me what the differences between the 2008 and 2009 model are?

I live in Vancouver BC up in Canada and the 2008's up here, type B package after all gov't rebates are going for $36, 800 on the road and they're offering 3.9% financing on it b/c they want to clear the showroom for the 2009 model. The 2009 model type B Camry Hybrid is going for about $38,200 but the financing on it is 8.2% which is way too high, but I really like the navigation system in it (the only one difference I have found between the two models). So my question to my fellow Camry lovers is can Toyota put the naviagation system into the 2008 model b/c economically it seems feasible to get the 2008 right, but I want that navigation system though and of course the premium JBL sound system too. Anyways get back to me guys I want to hear what you guys have to say, thanks.
Hey!

Yeah there's a difference between the two Package "B"s.

2008 - As you know, it's $35,680++ and minus rebates.

2009 - Now this one has factory navigation AND it has the Energy Monitor/Consumption Screen (a la Prius). First time it's offered in a Canadian TCH.

Now, the 2008 does have the navigation system as a dealer-installed accessory BUT it's the regular Camry's navigation (so no hybrid system information) AND it's $2,800 (or thereabouts) plus tax to install so you'll be looking at over $40k.


So, it comes down to this: Do you want navigation and the hybrid system information or not? Do you need the special financing rates or not?


Lastly, wait til March if you want a 2008. (Only a few more days). Well, next week realistically speaking.
 

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Dealers are now promoting $1000 off the best price you can negotiate or 2.9% financing, it ends 03/03/03. I think this is b/c the 2009 are now in the lots.

I was quoted $27,500 b/f ttl for a TCH w/ leather, navi, sunroof, heated seats...basically loaded. The onlty reason I didn't get it was b/c of the color.

I also asked them if there are any changes to the 2009 & he said not that he could tell.
 

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Dealers are now promoting $1000 off the best price you can negotiate or 2.9% financing, it ends 03/03/03. I think this is b/c the 2009 are now in the lots.

I was quoted $27,500 b/f ttl for a TCH w/ leather, navi, sunroof, heated seats...basically loaded. The onlty reason I didn't get it was b/c of the color.

I also asked them if there are any changes to the 2009 & he said not that he could tell.
Only $500 here in Cali. unfortunately... I paid $27.9 for mine just last night fully loaded...basically invoice. Might have been able to do a little bit better, but I'm happy to have found the color (Sky Blue Pearl) I wanted at a local dealership.
Didn't know Canadian Camrys didn't have factory NAV though...can't imagine why not?
 

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Kurupt, the budget doesn't include the EcoAuto rebate doesn't include the 2009 models. It ends 31st Dec

Didn't know Canadian Camrys didn't have factory NAV though...can't imagine why not?
Cause unlike the US, most of the country isn't mapped. Edmonton wasn't on the map til a few years ago (It wasn't on the 2003 Murano when they did a test drive report). Even then, only major metropolitan areas are mapped in detail. (Victoria, Greater Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Regina, Winnipeg, Greater Toronto, Niagara Falls, St. Catherine's, Windsor, Hamilton, Ottawa, Montréal, Sherbrooke, Québec City, Halifax, Fredericton, Charlottetown and St. John's to name a few).

Anything in between is either just a major highway or just adequately mapped.
 

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Does the 2008 TCH Navi have the hybrid info built into the display like the Prius.

I'm actually getting a really good deal for one in states just across the line in a border town. Does the 2008 US Model with navigation have the hybrid Prius information built into the monitor. I am getting quoted $29.5k fully loaded with navigation I might pounce on it, b/c there is no way anyone in Vancouver can beat that. By the way my dad owns a 2005 and uses it as a cab the car has 475,000 kms on it and its still running in prestine condition, rock on toyota!!!!
 

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I'm actually getting a really good deal for one in states just across the line in a border town. Does the 2008 US Model with navigation have the hybrid Prius information built into the monitor. I am getting quoted $29.5k fully loaded with navigation I might pounce on it, b/c there is no way anyone in Vancouver can beat that. By the way my dad owns a 2005 and uses it as a cab the car has 475,000 kms on it and its still running in prestine condition, rock on toyota!!!!
If you mean the battery charge info like the Prius then yes. You found a US dealer who is going to sell you one? And that price is about $1000 too much even for a 09.
 

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I'm actually getting a really good deal for one in states just across the line in a border town. Does the 2008 US Model with navigation have the hybrid Prius information built into the monitor. I am getting quoted $29.5k fully loaded with navigation I might pounce on it, b/c there is no way anyone in Vancouver can beat that. By the way my dad owns a 2005 and uses it as a cab the car has 475,000 kms on it and its still running in prestine condition, rock on toyota!!!!
Yes it does. Only 2009 Canadian models come with that (07 and 08 ones didn't so if you want the screen, you had to buy from the US). $29.5k isn't too bad actually considering it's $31k MSRP and they don't give discounts if you're a Canadian exporting it (I've asked before). It'll cover the EcoAuto rebate lol (Since you don't get that for imported cars). You still get the PST rebate though.

475,000kms? wow nice!! How long do cab drivers keep their cabs anyway?
 

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Bye-Bye Ecorebate

Eco-rebate is gone for 2009, only till Dec. 2008.


2008 Flaherty kills tax rebates on green cars

$300 million for nuclear energy. New environmental measures also call for monitoring infrastructure for carbon trading Wednesday, February 27, 2008
The Harper government sprinkled a series of new environmental measures into the federal budget yesterday, including a $300-million boost for nuclear energy and a $240-million investment to clean up pollution from coal-fired power plants in Saskatchewan.
It also announced the abrupt termination of a popular program that offered tax rebates on energy-efficient cars that had been widely criticized by most of the car manufacturing industry.
"Canadians demand and expect that action is being taken to reduce harmful
emissions and to crack down on polluters," Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said in a prepared speech to the House of Commons.
"Today, we are taking action to fulfill our commitments to a cleaner, healthier environment."
Though Prime Minister Stephen Harper and members of his government have
recently described global warming as one of the greatest threats facing humanity, Flaherty's budget speech did not mention any concerns about climate change and adaptation.
The $300 million for Atomic Energy of Canada Ltd. will nearly triple the budget of the crown corporation, which develops nuclear products and reactors.
The budget indicates that the funding would help develop an advanced nuclear reactor and maintain safety and operations at its Chalk River facilities.
The Chalk River reactor was shut down over safety concerns last fall, but Parliament passed emergency legislation to reopen it in December because of fears of a global shortage of medical isotopes produced at the facility.
The $240-million investment for the coal industry in Saskatchewan is earmarked for new technology to capture carbon dioxide emissions and store them underground.
The government is also offering more tax incentives for green investments and beefing up environmental law enforcement.
But for the average consumer, an incentive program that was introduced in the 2007 budget, offering tax rebates of up to $2,000 on new energy-efficient cars, will no longer be available after December, while a special tax on gas-guzzling vehicles remains in effect.

MIKE DE SOUZA

27/02/2008 http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=530c41b1-08a0-42d9-8f29-cec00951...
 

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I hope you are right but I specifically asked the salesman, he looked it up, found it on the '09 but not the '08. Having said that the '08 brochure does have it on the '08 Hybrid. Could it be that the salesman was misinformed? (insert sarcastic smilie)
 

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I'm pretty sure they won't take it out for one model year lol.

Plus all new Toyota hybrids (so that's everything except the Prius) have VDIM.
 

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Except for the ability to monitor the energy consumption, Toyota's NAV system is not a good option. I have it on mine, but it is so completely frustrating that it is cannot be used in motion by anyone makes it just annoying to use at all. The interface is awkward to use and the maps are horribly out of date (the NAV does not even have my street). I would definitely sump Navteq if I were in charge at Toyota. If I had it to do over again, I would either not get the NAV option or buy a different hybrid car. The lack of usefulness of the NAV system has given me a bad case of buyer's remorse.
 

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I was in a hurry to get our '07 before the US hybrid tax credit bumped down again so did not find one with the factory Nav. Nor did we get the heated leather seats (which we surely could have used this past winter).

That said, I did get a Garmin Nuvi 660 Nav unit which is very functional. A bit of a pain lugging it around and having a power cord hanging own over the radio faceplate but it's simply an indispensable device. Sure, I know how to get from my house to point A or point B but may not know how to get directly from A to B. And my 2008 map update was free.
 

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Except for the ability to monitor the energy consumption, Toyota's NAV system is not a good option. I have it on mine, but it is so completely frustrating that it is cannot be used in motion by anyone makes it just annoying to use at all. The interface is awkward to use and the maps are horribly out of date (the NAV does not even have my street). I would definitely sump Navteq if I were in charge at Toyota. If I had it to do over again, I would either not get the NAV option or buy a different hybrid car. The lack of usefulness of the NAV system has given me a bad case of buyer's remorse.
Mine works great no issues. :)
 

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Except for the ability to monitor the energy consumption, Toyota's NAV system is not a good option. I have it on mine, but it is so completely frustrating that it is cannot be used in motion by anyone makes it just annoying to use at all. The interface is awkward to use and the maps are horribly out of date (the NAV does not even have my street). I would definitely sump Navteq if I were in charge at Toyota. If I had it to do over again, I would either not get the NAV option or buy a different hybrid car. The lack of usefulness of the NAV system has given me a bad case of buyer's remorse.
Funny thing is that all things great lead to Navteq. It's considered the superior map source and endorsed by all Garmin users.
 

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I've read the same thing about Toyota's pita navi. I have used the navi from acura, IIRC it's made by Alpine & it is the best one.

Here is how the OEM Navs are ranked:

Honda/Acura > Nissan/Infinity > Toyota/Lexus

Anyone else who used all 3, do you agree?
 
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