As stated above. Explain your statement.camry man68 said:^explain, please
i will explain,clarkgrizwald said:man you guys are splitting hairs on air filters but your dropping 100s of dollars on springs and wheels! where the logic????
+1njerald said:1 mpg increase (conservative????) with the K&N????????
The factory airbox and tubing is not restrictive, the factory air filter is. It's easy enough to show a gain when installing any part on a dyno without the gain being real. Can you tell me what part of the factory air intake setup is restrictive exactly? And more restrictive than what? I can't imagine that any part of the air intake is smaller than any single intake port or even the throttle body. If your saying that it is, give us the dimensions please.camry man68 said:I'll explain, drop in air filters are in a restrictive filter box, this box doesnt allow much air to get to the filter. Also, the stock intake piping is restrictive as well. Open element air-filters aren't enclosed, therefore they suck in alot more air, also they're cone shape design allows for more air to be taken in. Also, the colder the air the more power you get, a cold air intake builds on that foundation. There are dynos out there that prove cai's and short rams give you more power than drop ins.
njerald said:1 mpg increase (conservative????) with the K&N????????
They aren't opinions, they're facts.camry man68 said:you guys can have your opinion, im completely happy with my injen cold air intake
here are some links that have dyno proof that cai's and short rams are better-TRD VVTi said:They aren't opinions, they're facts.
Yours was an opinion that you passed along as fact. There's a difference.
To the OP. Get the K&N and keep your old air filter for when you have to clean the K&N.
You'll save some money and it won't hurt anything.
Actually, the real world is where the truth is...camry man68 said:well there comes a point in a agruement where theres no point arguing on, if dynos cant convince you i dont know what can because dynos are the truth.
How do you proove that the k&n drop in is better, you said earlier that cai's and short rams hurt the car instead of improving it, but how would you know that without looking at dynos, so in actuallity all of your actual facts are based on dynos. The real world is a truth to a certent degree because in the real world a human by himself cannot tell how much hp a car has gained or loss due to a modification, thats what dynos are for. A modification is labeled bad or not based on the performance gains and losses, these performance gains and losses as stated before can only be identified by a dyno. Therefore, truth is in a dyno, especially when there are lots of dynos all backing up the same conclusion.TRD VVTi said:Actually, the real world is where the truth is...
Again, what YOU claim is a fact is actually an INCORRECT OPINION that you are passing off as fact.