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After I did the install the 4 wire plug thing I became clear it should have been a six or seven wire plug to allow a brake controller to be used.

Soooo...

Anyone gone beyond Toyota's "Tow Package" 4 wire system??

This may work with boat trailers with surge brakes but won't work with small travel trailers exceeding 3,000 lbs.

If you have done this how did you go about it (where did you run the extra wires, connect the controller, replace the four wire socket with a six or seven wire socket, etc)?
 

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Summerwind, I’ll be putting in a Tekonsha Prodigy brake controller soon; no latter than the end of the month. I have to first install the Toyota hitch (waiting on son to help lift it in place and warmer weather), fabricate a bracket for the Prodigy and (most importantly) get a new digital camera (the old died last week). I’ll post my installation going from the 4 wire to 7 wire setup.
 

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Summerwind, I’ll be putting in a Tekonsha Prodigy brake controller soon; no latter than the end of the month. I have to first install the Toyota hitch (waiting on son to help lift it in place and warmer weather), fabricate a bracket for the Prodigy and (most importantly) get a new digital camera (the old died last week). I’ll post my installation going from the 4 wire to 7 wire setup.

Great!!

I will be of great value to know where to route the additional wires and wire to install the controller and wire connections
 

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hey NEWSRV

Summerwind, I’ll be putting in a Tekonsha Prodigy brake controller soon; no latter than the end of the month. I have to first install the Toyota hitch (waiting on son to help lift it in place and warmer weather), fabricate a bracket for the Prodigy and (most importantly) get a new digital camera (the old died last week). I’ll post my installation going from the 4 wire to 7 wire setup.


Any updates putting controller and going from 4 to 7 wire hookup?
 

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Hey Guys, I'm on it. I have been working on it as time allows. Thus far, I have run wires from the battery area and the foot well area (where the controller will be located) back to the hitch. Left to do is completing the wiring to the battery and installing the brake controller. Should no take too long. I'm waiting for the better half to decide which new digital camera she wants (our old camera died) so I can include some pictures. If you can't wait for the pics, I can describe what I have done.
 

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I'm waiting for the better half to decide which new digital camera she wants (our old camera died) so I can include some pictures.
Off topic but food for thought

I bought a Canon SD850 IS for my wife
She loves it.
She had a Nikon Coolpix before and it took good pictures but it was AA battery thirsty. It seemed that every time she went anywhere she needed to change the batteries

The Canon has a Lithium battery that lasts a long time.
Advantage Canon Lithium battery
The disadvantage is that you need another Lithium Battery Pack NB-5L or charge the battery that comes with the camera periodically
She has not found this to be a problem as the battery charger that came with the camera is compact and easy to use. She just plugs it in for and hour if she knows she will do a lot of shooting that day.

It has a quick shutter (no push the button and wait for the shutter to fire) and takes 1.3 pictures a second.

It also incorporates Canon's Image Stabilization

I have a Canon 30D with all the L glass lenses and use her camera for quick out and about pictures. At 8.0 megapixels it produces high quality pictures when I don't want to take a backpack with my 100-400 IS lens and tripod stuff in the field.

I have dealt with NewEgg.com for years. They ship from California so it usually shows up in Seattle in 3 days.

Might go to a camera store and look and compare features and prices but NewEgg usually beats local prices by far.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16830120208

You will also need to order a SD memory card for the camera
I watch Fry's in Renton and other stores for sales.
You can usually get a Sandisk Extreme 2 gig card for a reasonable price.

NewEgg currently has them for $29.60

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171258
 

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summerwind, without a doubt great minds live in Washington State and drive Highlanders. My wife has the Canon SD850 IS at the top of his list. She's waiting on our son, who lives in Bellevue, to check out Fry's. Around here on the Kitsap peninsula, Office Depot has the best deal, $250. I just might go out the buy the SD850 - trying to save maybe $20 at most is like stepping over dollars to save pennies.
 

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I just might go out the buy the SD850 - trying to save maybe $20 at most is like stepping over dollars to save pennies.
Agree....:thumbup:

Like I mentioned I would recommend at least a 2 gig SD card as 8 gigabytes can fill up a 512 MB card fast. The camera can benefit from a Sandisk Extreme or
Ultra for cycle time between shots

One other thing if you use Microsoft XP...

There is a neat add in that allows you to resize pictures that are more usable for email and forums. Here is the link...

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Look on the right and select the image resizer download
 

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Summerwind, I’ll be putting in a Tekonsha Prodigy brake controller soon; no latter than the end of the month. I have to first install the Toyota hitch (waiting on son to help lift it in place and warmer weather), fabricate a bracket for the Prodigy and (most importantly) get a new digital camera (the old died last week). I’ll post my installation going from the 4 wire to 7 wire setup.

I see buy your post of a Tekonsha P2 brake controller you make the brake light connection on a gray wire. Etrailer videos say to connect to a blue wire for the brake lights. I do have the factory installed four pin setup on my 2011 TH and I am having trouble with the brake light connection.
 

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wanttoknow, as sweeneyp asked, is your converter a Toyota or an aftermarket?

For the Toyota converter, here's the converter setup:
pin# color function
8 pink +B voltage
9 gray stop input
10 red turn right input
4 black turn left input
3 blue tail light input
 

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Over the past few months I have installed a Toyota OEM hitch, etrailer custom 4-pin wiring kit, 4 to 7-pin conversion kit and a Prodigy P2 brake controller on my 2013 Highlander Base 4WD V6. Here are the etrailer links:

http://www.etrailer.com/Custom-Fit-...lander/2013/118449.html?vehicleid=20131176277

http://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/etrailer/ETBC7.html

What's nice about the etrailer site is the many installation videos for the parts/kits that they sell. The 4-pin link has video clips for several different years of the Toyota Highlander.

The 4 to 7-pin conversion kit also has two separate Highlander videos and each also includes a different Prodigy brake controller install as well.

Some comments on the 4 to 7-pin kit and the installation of the components:

The kit contains enough wire cable to go from the back of the Highlander all the way underneath the vehicle and up into the engine bay. As the video shows you will have enough wiring left over to run some wire back through the firewall to the brake controller. Stringing the wire along the underside has a few challenges. Be careful going over the rear driver wheel area. Lots of linkage in this area and you need to secure the wire with zip ties so that it does not sag or droop. As you approach the middle of the SUV you will encounter a fairly good size plastic shield that needs to be partially removed to route your wire and tie it securely. The shield uses those plastic pop fittings and a couple of threaded bolts that need to be removed. It looks easy in the video but when you are using jack stands and laying on your back it can be a bit challenging at times. Watch the video to see where to run the wire up into the engine compartment. Your wire should come up between the firewall and the air filter plastic cover.

Make sure you use the correct breakers and mount them as shown. Also pay attention to the ring clamps that you use. Use the small ones for the connections to the breakers and the large ring connectors for the + and - battery connections. I used an electrical metal fish tape from the inside driver side to push through the firewall grommet. On the 2013 that grommet is hidden behind the floor carpet material. Don't push too much tape into the engine compartment as it will get hung up when you go around to find it from the engine bay. Let's just say that you need small hands to find your pull tape as it is hidden behind the brake fluid assembly. Once you have your fish tape secure the wiring and pull it back inside the vehicle. You have to do this a second time in order to get the necessary 3 wires for the brake controller. Again watch the video carefully and you should be okay.

Everything so far was fairly easy and just required a bit of patience and taking one step at a time. Now comes the fun part. On the brake controller you need to connect the "red wire" to the SUV's brake switch. For my 2013 Highlander the video shows that the brake controller red wire needs to be attached to the "blue" wire on the brake switch using a plastic clamping connector. Looks easy in the video! I must have spent an hour looking for that brake switch with half of my 6' 3" body hanging out the drivers door. Turns out you "cannot" see that switch with your head next to the brake pedal because Toyota, at least for 2013 put a big fat, black plastic air duct right in the way!

I had to pull off the plastic housing below the steering wheel (carefully) and let it hang while I looked into the mess of wires and parts. That darn switch is to the left of the steering column and inside the dash about 10-12 inches and just below a sharp metal bracket. Getting the clamp over the blue wire on the switch and the red wire from the controller along with my hands and a pair of pliers was an exercise in self torture. After a whole lot of trying I finally did it but I must have made around 20 attempts. Not sure what year Highlander you have but this is a bear on the 2013.

I followed all of the remaining instructions and attached the Prodigy P2 and plugged in the back connector. I mounted the P2 just to the right of the small fold out pocket door on the lower dash. I put the key in the ignition and turned the vehicle on. The Prodigy LCD display ran through some characters and finally settled down to just two blue dots. That indicates that the Prodigy is working and that "no trailer is attached". According to the instructions the two dots should disappear (blank screen) after 15 minutes of no motion. Sure enough after 15 minutes the display was blank!

Next week I will be testing the system by hooking up to a friends pop-up camper. I'll let you know how that works out after the test.

In the midst of all this I decided to also install a wired Hopkins back-up/trailer towing camera as well. Long story short the wire is all routed along the inside of the vehicle up to the front, across the driver foot well and the cable comes out in that little side pocket on the vertical part of the center console next to your right foot. At least on the 2013 Highlander their is a small pocket that I had to drill a 5/8" hole to get the wire connector head out and into the pocket. The camera is up and working and what's nice about it is that it has a superimposed set of grid lines for routine backup and at the push of a button shows a different grid pattern for backing up to a travel trailer coupling. On top of that it also has an audible system that single beeps, double beeps and really sounds off very rapidly depending on how close you are to an object. You can shut the audio off, control screen contact, color and sharpness!

Enough for now!
 

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I installed a Tekonsha P2 on my 2011 when it was new. The most difficult part was getting the wires from the battery through the firewall grommets for the wiring harness. I don't know if you have given any thought to include a battery charging line for your trailer. If so I would recommend 10 guage or larger wire. The installation videos at etrailer.com were very helpful although at the time I had done mine there was no Highlander specific video.
I've towed my Jayco 1207 from the northeast to Florida several times and did a 10,000 mile trip to Utah and back. We've done well over 20,000 towing miles with no trailer brake issues whatsoever. The tekonsha P2 performed perfectly In the mountains of Colorado and Utah as well as in heavy traffic passing through the big cities. The ability to charge the trailer battery while driving proved to be very useful. We always arrived at our campgrounds with a fully charged battery
 

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Hey Summerwind, I have an '08 HL that came with the "tow prep" package which means it comes with the transmission cooler, engine oil cooler, bigger radiator and the 4-wire connectors that go in the rear. This of course does not work for a brake controller so I had to run additional wiring to make it a universal 7-wire system.

I created a how-to on it, which is here.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/1...hlander-7-wire-tow-package-install-guide.html
 
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