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I'm looking at these tires in 265/70R16.

I'm interested to know what you're opinion is. I'm in Texas so snow perofrmance is not an issue. I'm looking for rock solid wet/dry traction, low road noise, decent rolling resistance and long life. I do 99% highway, but need good traction for pulling a 18' bass boat out of a steep ramp.

I've been through tirerack and the reviews look good but I would like to hear tacoma owners prospective. Don't forget to mention if you have the P-metric or LT version of the tire.-

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I had 'em on my ford F150 for years.

Quiet, long wearing, good gas mileage, tough.

And, I made a frequent habit of pulling my 5000lb boat/trailer combo out of tidal salt water boat ramps.

For the purposes you describe, a great tire based on my experience. If I didn't off-road or drive in the snow, that's what I'd get.

Oh yeah, the size was 235/75R15.
 

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I put LTX2 M/S P245/75R 16, direct replacement size, on my 06 this summer. I also run 99% on the highway, but also go on level 3&4 trails in CO for a week each summer. One the highway, these tires are quiet, smooth, ride well, and I got my best mileage ever while returning from CO this summer. They performed well on the the level trails we went on. Not saying much, but they are a huge step up from the Dunlop GrandTrek AT20s. Both on and off road. Get'm. You will not regret it.
 

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I'm very happy with mine. Just turned over 50k miles and they look brand new. The c load rating is the way to go on a tacoma, very comfy ride. Be carefull accelerating around corners in the rain, they break loose easily. That dosn't surprise me from a tire that wears like iron.

These are great tires. That's why they cost so much. It was worth the expense to me due to high shipping and mounting costs out here. Put on good stuff once or garbage twice for the same price...
 

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Just to be sure you are referring to the M/S 2 and not the original M/S. They changed the design a little and I'm interested in the M/S2 only.

Its a little dissapointing to hear about breaking loose while accelerating in around a corner. That is my biggest complaint about the A20s. On my route to wok, I have to pull out form a side road onto a sometimes busy highway and the backtires spin no matter how easy if feather the gas if the roads are wet. I basically have to burn them to get it going hme let off the acclerator when the truck is about about a 45 degree angle then let the back end slide the rest of the way. (don't try this at home kids :) ) Its been like that since new. I know the back end is light but I was hoping a premium tire would be much better in this aspect.

thanks.

Also were those LT tires or P-metric?
 

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I recently installed 285/75/16 Michelin LTX M/S 2s on my 2010 Tacoma Double Cab 4WD with a 3 inch lift kit. The tires are very quiet and the ride quality is great. Most of my driving is on the highway so I can't speak for off-road performance and I haven't towed anything since the install but from what I have seen thus far and from previois experience with Michelin tires, it's hard to go wrong with Michelin. They may be more expensice than some other tires but like the saying goes, you get what you pay for.:thumbsup:
 

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I replaced the stock bridgestone duelers with P class 265/70r17 M/S2's about 2k miles ago. The duelers lasted 56k miles and were just at the wear bars. Ride is smoother, quieter and traction is great. Cornering is also a lot better. The 'stones would break loose easily, these are firmly planted and have not had traction problems. Cuts through standing water and rain no problem either. I paid $163 / tire shipped from discount tire direct back in February on sale + Michelin rebate, but just put them on. Mounted for $26 @ walmart. $675 total mounted and out the door.
 

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Lt's. I've only slipped a few times. Like you said, it's probably very common in pickups. With the limited slip it's not a big deal. Just don't try it in heavy traffic!
 

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I replaced the stock bridgestone duelers with P class 265/70r17 M/S2's about 2k miles ago. The duelers lasted 56k miles and were just at the wear bars. Ride is smoother, quieter and traction is great. Cornering is also a lot better. The 'stones would break loose easily, these are firmly planted and have not had traction problems. Cuts through standing water and rain no problem either. I paid $163 / tire shipped from discount tire direct back in February on sale + Michelin rebate, but just put them on. Mounted for $26 @ walmart. $675 total mounted and out the door.
That was a great price on that M/S2s The lowest I can get out the door with is $800 after $70 rebate.
 

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stay with the p-metric, i lost about 1.5 mpg with LT's, they are heavier and our trucks don't need that heavy of a load range. I've had problems with many All Terrains slipping in back, have to air down LT's to get full tread contact, just my experience with dbl cab 4x4.
 

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Thanks Wapiti1

Thats strange that you lost MPG when the LT tires are listed as low rolling resistance while the P-metrics are not. I guess the weight gain more than makes up for the gains on rolling resistance.

It's looking good. My buddy at work had M/S2s on his silverado and didn't even know it. I passed his truck and recognised the tred pattern. When I asked him how he liked his tires, he was over the top in praise for ride comfort and traction.

Now I just have to wait for a good sale. That $70 rabate comes and goes. I'm looking for a 3 get one free deal. My buddy said he got that and the price came out to $140/tire with mounting and balance plus a $100 gift card in december of 2009.

I wonder if December is the time of the year to get good tire sales. I can ride on these sh### a## A20s until them if I can save a couple hundred.

Right now tire rack has them for $176 each then I have to pay an additional $70 to get them mounted at NTB.
 

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I have them on my truck and love em. They ride great and handle great in all kinds of weather. 100% better then the OE BF Goodrich tires. I put on P not LT tires cause I figured the added weight would lower fuel mileage. I'm getting the same gas mileage as the OE tires I had on there. 17-18 city, 21-22 highway.
 

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My mpg did not change either w/ the 265/70s from 265/65s. - although I do feel acceleration took a hit.

Also, my speedo error was fixed, I was reading about 4-5 mph off @ 75mph. Now it's spot on, but the odo is about 4% low.
 

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LTX/MS2 Opinion

Just bought mine in June and put on in Sept.. Great Tire. I got 63K out of the Dunlop Grantreks A20s. I purchased my Michelins LTX/MS2 tires from Treadepot.com. After purchase, shipping,install, alignment and $70 rebate. I had $663 total in the P245/75R16s. After 1.5k I noticed no change in mpg. Ride is significantly better. Noise is a minimum. Good choice for this truck.
 

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Just bought mine in June and put on in Sept.. Great Tire. I got 63K out of the Dunlop Grantreks A20s. I purchased my Michelins LTX/MS2 tires from Treadepot.com. After purchase, shipping,install, alignment and $70 rebate. I had $663 total in the P245/75R16s. After 1.5k I noticed no change in mpg. Ride is significantly better. Noise is a minimum. Good choice for this truck.
I'm debating between this tire and the LTX/AT2. I will have about 63K on Dunlops too. Do you get any snow in TN/where you are located? And thanks for the heads up on treadepot.
 

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Ooops I had a brain fart. My tires are LTX A/T2. Anyway what I said before and I love em. Been good in snow also.
 

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Snow

yes we get snow here in TN but not more than a couple inches usually. My buddy has the LTX/AT's and likes them. He says they are quiet but they cost more than the LTX/MS2's. I am pretty sure that treadepot.com carries both. I have not driven them in the snow yet. My buddy got around with the AT's last winter no problem. I got around with Dunlops pretty good. I am pretty sure these will be an improvement over the Dunlops for me. Good luck and hope that you get a great price and the rebate.
 

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yes we get snow here in TN but not more than a couple inches usually. My buddy has the LTX/AT's and likes them. He says they are quiet but they cost more than the LTX/MS2's. I am pretty sure that treadepot.com carries both. I have not driven them in the snow yet. My buddy got around with the AT's last winter no problem. I got around with Dunlops pretty good. I am pretty sure these will be an improvement over the Dunlops for me. Good luck and hope that you get a great price and the rebate.
AT/2's are on order and will be installed Friday. I am satisfied with the price @ $150/tire and $80 shipped. I didn't fair too bad with the Dunlops in snow either. We had several 5" to 10" snows over the life of those tires here in central IL.
 

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Price sounds great

Congrats on the price.Sounds great to me. Hope you like the tires. Where did you order yours from?
 
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