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Avalon Sold Out At Most Dealers in Anticipation of Crown Sedan

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If you were hoping to buy Toyota's largest sedan, you may be in for a surprise at your local dealership. Based on our analysis of national inventory listings, the Toyota Avalon has sold out at most dealerships. Even if you manage to find one in stock, a closer look finds that the discontinued car has virtually no incentives.

News of the Toyota Avalon being discontinued broke last year, and reports claim production ended this August. According to several major car listing sites, there are fewer than 70 cars left in stock. With the 2022 Avalon being the model's final year, full-sized car buyers in the U.S. may have trouble finding a good alternative.

For example, Chrysler is killing the 300 sedan after 2023 and is sending it off with a limited-production 300C variant with HEMI V8 power. Similarly, Nissan is reportedly planning to end Maxima production next year. This could leave buyers with few choices for a smooth-riding sedan with a hybrid option to boot.

Discounts on the Avalon have been non-existent. Here in Southern California, a dealer incentive bulletin reveals that Toyota canceled Avalon financing deals altogether, and there are no more lease deals on the 44-mpg Avalon Hybrid. However, there is one incentive left for buyers lucky enough to find one in stock.

Through October 3rd, Toyota Financial is offering $1,000 in APR Cash on both the Avalon and Avalon Hybrid. Unlike a normal rebate, this is an incentive that you can only get when financing. In the absence of financing deals, Toyota's online payment estimator lists an eye-watering 72-month interest rate of 8.21% APR.


That represents a substantial price increase compared to recent offers. A month ago, Toyota's non-promotional rate was listed at 7.44%. On a $40,000 car, we estimate that a 6-year loan at 8.21% would cost roughly $10,800 in interest. Curiously, buying a used Avalon could end up being a better deal for shoppers.

For example, a national dealer incentive bulletin shows that Toyota is offering 4.5% APR for 60 months on factory-certified Avalons. Depending on the vehicle price that you can manage to negotiate in your area, this could help put a significant dent in your costs given the ongoing Federal Reserve rate hikes in 2022.

If you have the luxury of having time on your side, it's also worth noting that Toyota plans to replace the Avalon with the Crown for 2023. A crossover-like sedan, the Crown will be a hybrid-only vehicle. If you can manage to wait, the 2023 Crown may offer an alternative for buyers uninterested in stepping up to a new Lexus.
If you are lucky to find a 2022, its got a $1000 rebate right now.
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If you are lucky to find a 2022, its got a $1000 rebate right now.
We're kind of excited for the Crown with its standard AWD and hybrid layout, but the Avalon will be missed.
We're kind of excited for the Crown with its standard AWD and hybrid layout, but the Avalon will be missed.
I guess Avy parts are good moving part$$$...bumpers and all that lol
Not many Avalons that were sold in Canada. Most people never heard of or seen one, A few were surprised to find out my Lady was a 2013 and thought she was new. It's my first and will be my last Toyota. Hopefully she'll outlast me without major issues. The main reason is the cost and difficulty obtaining parts and many parts are dealer only especially in Canada and American online dealers even with the current exchange rate would cost less but they are not allowed to ship to Canada. Toyota territorial protection. I think if she gets any minor accident damage that needs parts my insurance will probably write it off.
The Crown looks to be quite different from the outgoing Avalon:

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The Crown looks to be quite different from the outgoing Avalon:
I do not understand TURBO gas engine in a hybrid system. Hybrid and Turbo are parts of different worlds. They are incompatible.
Is it a performance car or a gas saving commuter? It cannot be both.
I'd see how it would fly in real life. How long the turbo engine will last.
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At my Toyota dealer they have very few of any vehicles available for sale, parking lot looks empty and most of the new inventory vehicles are listed as 'sale pending'.

If you are lucky to find a 2022, its got a $1000 rebate right now.
There are a few (less than five) in my neck of the woods. Despite the current market, Avalons aren't moving nearly as fast as most other Toyota models... at least in my neck of the woods.

I really hope that the Crown is decent. I try never to judge new Toyota designs too harshly when I see them in pictures or in videos... because often the way that they look in person is very different. The Crown seems to be something that could potentially look pretty good in person- especially the models with 21" wheels... but with all of the weird styling choices that Toyota made with it... it could also be ugly in person. The two-toned paint scheme isn't something that likely looks good in my opinion- at least not in the pictures.

I'm still really sad to see the Avalon die. It's always been a very good car- it's just that Toyota sort-of lost focus on some of the main things that made the Avalon so great with the most recent generation. It just sat too low to the ground- which is something that likely didn't appeal to a large percentage of the people who buy Avalons.

Toyota was trying to make the Avalon appeal to younger buyers- and I think that they did that with the 2019+ Avalon... but they did that at the expense of the actual population that has historically purchased Avalons. Not too many older Americans who want a full-size car want one that's so low to the ground.
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I do not understand TURBO gas engine in a hybrid system. Hybrid and Turbo are parts of different worlds. They are incompatible.
Is it a performance car or a gas saving commuter? It cannot be both.
I'd see how it would fly in real life. How long the turbo engine will last.
Companies have to go turbo because of the gubermint...that's just how it is nowadays with the world regulations these days, which is pushing towards EVs eventually. To me, the better alternative is to go for the hybrid if you don't want the turbo gas engine and be happy with the MPG.
The Crown will be a failure for Toyota.
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I do not understand TURBO gas engine in a hybrid system. Hybrid and Turbo are parts of different worlds. They are incompatible.
Is it a performance car or a gas saving commuter? It cannot be both.
I'd see how it would fly in real life. How long the turbo engine will last.
I don't see any issues with this turbo/hybrid combination. But between the design, pricing, limited "utility" of a raised hatch vs SUV and sliding down Toyota quality (to be fair, it's an industry wide thing) the Crown is just "not me".
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The Crown will be a failure for Toyota.
I agree. Toyota is trying to cover all the bases with the Crown; Hybrid, Sedan, Crossover, Sporty (turbo hp), etc. and like most universal tools it will underperform in all categories vs. the competition with more focused designs. Another manufacturer with a different approach that has done well:

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Re the Crown, I’d buy one only if the ground clearance were low enough that a 5’ tall, disabled and stout person could easily enter and exit. If that were the case, I’d only get the standard engine, and would very much prefer a plug-in. A turbo and 300 hp in this vehicle these days borders on wretched excess.
Yesterday, I made a 300 mile round trip. I usually make this trip in my XT5 but decided yesterday to use the Avalon. It reminded me how much more I enjoy driving a sedan than an SUV on road trips. My nine year old, 64,000 miles on the odometer Avalon rides and drives better than new and got 40.4 mpg on the trip. I am hoping the Crown is a good replacement for the Avalon because I would like to continue to own a sedan in the future. We won't really know how good the Crown is until we can drive it.
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The Crown will be a failure for Toyota.
On the preview models I've seen the steering wheel is MANUAL adjust. Meaning when you set your seat position and wheel position(and press 'save' #1 or #2), the wheel will NOT move out of the way when you power down the car to exit.
On the preview models I've seen the steering wheel is MANUAL adjust. Meaning when you set your seat position and wheel position(and press 'save' #1 or #2), the wheel will NOT move out of the way when you power down the car to exit.
That’s not good. I just saw the new redesigned Camry today and it looks exactly like the Crown for the exception that it isn’t high. The front end and the rear end look exactly like Crown. I’m so glad that I bought the last of the 2022 Avalon Limited models. It looks much better than the Crown.
That’s not good. I just saw the new redesigned Camry today and it looks exactly like the Crown for the exception that it isn’t high. The front end and the rear end look exactly like Crown. I’m so glad that I bought the last of the 2022 Avalon Limited models. It looks much better than the Crown.
Redesigned Camry? The 2023 Camry is mostly a carryover...
On the preview models I've seen the steering wheel is MANUAL adjust. Meaning when you set your seat position and wheel position(and press 'save' #1 or #2), the wheel will NOT move out of the way when you power down the car to exit.
This is typical for Toyotas. You need a power adjust steering wheel for this feature which I don't recall ever seeing on a Toyota sold in the U.S. Does the Gen5 Avalon have a power adjust steering wheel? I have this feature on my Cadillac XT5 and never use it.
This is typical for Toyotas. You need a power adjust steering wheel for this feature which I don't recall ever seeing on a Toyota sold in the U.S. Does the Gen5 Avalon have a power adjust steering wheel? I have this feature on my Cadillac XT5 and never use it.
It does.
Our 5thGen 2019 Toyota Avalon Limited has a power adjust steering wheel.
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It does.
Our 5thGen 2019 Toyota Avalon Limited has a power adjust steering wheel.
…and so does our 2022 Avalon Limited model.
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