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Avalon Sold Out At Most Dealers in Anticipation of Crown Sedan

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If you were hoping to buy Toyota's largest sedan, you may be in for a surprise at your local dealership. Based on our analysis of national inventory listings, the Toyota Avalon has sold out at most dealerships. Even if you manage to find one in stock, a closer look finds that the discontinued car has virtually no incentives.

News of the Toyota Avalon being discontinued broke last year, and reports claim production ended this August. According to several major car listing sites, there are fewer than 70 cars left in stock. With the 2022 Avalon being the model's final year, full-sized car buyers in the U.S. may have trouble finding a good alternative.

For example, Chrysler is killing the 300 sedan after 2023 and is sending it off with a limited-production 300C variant with HEMI V8 power. Similarly, Nissan is reportedly planning to end Maxima production next year. This could leave buyers with few choices for a smooth-riding sedan with a hybrid option to boot.

Discounts on the Avalon have been non-existent. Here in Southern California, a dealer incentive bulletin reveals that Toyota canceled Avalon financing deals altogether, and there are no more lease deals on the 44-mpg Avalon Hybrid. However, there is one incentive left for buyers lucky enough to find one in stock.

Through October 3rd, Toyota Financial is offering $1,000 in APR Cash on both the Avalon and Avalon Hybrid. Unlike a normal rebate, this is an incentive that you can only get when financing. In the absence of financing deals, Toyota's online payment estimator lists an eye-watering 72-month interest rate of 8.21% APR.


That represents a substantial price increase compared to recent offers. A month ago, Toyota's non-promotional rate was listed at 7.44%. On a $40,000 car, we estimate that a 6-year loan at 8.21% would cost roughly $10,800 in interest. Curiously, buying a used Avalon could end up being a better deal for shoppers.

For example, a national dealer incentive bulletin shows that Toyota is offering 4.5% APR for 60 months on factory-certified Avalons. Depending on the vehicle price that you can manage to negotiate in your area, this could help put a significant dent in your costs given the ongoing Federal Reserve rate hikes in 2022.

If you have the luxury of having time on your side, it's also worth noting that Toyota plans to replace the Avalon with the Crown for 2023. A crossover-like sedan, the Crown will be a hybrid-only vehicle. If you can manage to wait, the 2023 Crown may offer an alternative for buyers uninterested in stepping up to a new Lexus.
If you are lucky to find a 2022, its got a $1000 rebate right now.
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How much would it improve the performance & gas mileage if I removed the ton of battery & sold it for some cash? Can I delete the battery when buying?

& I guess I would add a second gas tank in some of the battery space...

How do apartment dwellers charge their cars? Is installing chargers another expense the landlord will be mandated to incur?
How much would it improve the performance & gas mileage if I removed the ton of battery & sold it for some cash? Can I delete the battery when buying?

& I guess I would add a second gas tank in some of the battery space...

How do apartment dwellers charge their cars? Is installing chargers another expense the landlord will be mandated to incur?
The Avalon is not an EV. The Avalon hybrid is the one that has batteries in it. I don’t know if you can actually strip out the electric batteries and all the cables in the Avalon hybrid and convert it into a non hybrid with gas powered only.
The Avalon is not an EV. The Avalon hybrid is the one that has batteries in it. I don’t know if you can actually strip out the electric batteries and all the cables in the Avalon hybrid and convert it into a non hybrid with gas powered only.
Talking about the Crown.
Went to see the Crown yesterday at my local Toyota dealer, looks like the replacement for my Avalon won't be a Toyota.
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Went to see the Crown yesterday at my local Toyota dealer, looks like the replacement for my Avalon won't be a Toyota.
how was it?
how was it?
Looks bloated and tires look too big, MAX engine gets less MPG'S than the V6. Not a replacement a whole different category, just not for me.
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Looks bloated and tires look too big, MAX engine gets less MPG'S than the V6. Not a replacement a whole different category, just not for me.
I agree. all these vehicles with 19 inch/20 inch wheels look ugly and the ride is harsh too. I am still scratching my head on the crown segment - who is it for?!
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There are a few (less than five) in my neck of the woods. Despite the current market, Avalons aren't moving nearly as fast as most other Toyota models... at least in my neck of the woods.

I really hope that the Crown is decent. I try never to judge new Toyota designs too harshly when I see them in pictures or in videos... because often the way that they look in person is very different. The Crown seems to be something that could potentially look pretty good in person- especially the models with 21" wheels... but with all of the weird styling choices that Toyota made with it... it could also be ugly in person. The two-toned paint scheme isn't something that likely looks good in my opinion- at least not in the pictures.

I'm still really sad to see the Avalon die. It's always been a very good car- it's just that Toyota sort-of lost focus on some of the main things that made the Avalon so great with the most recent generation. It just sat too low to the ground- which is something that likely didn't appeal to a large percentage of the people who buy Avalons.

Toyota was trying to make the Avalon appeal to younger buyers- and I think that they did that with the 2019+ Avalon... but they did that at the expense of the actual population that has historically purchased Avalons. Not too many older Americans who want a full-size car want one that's so low to the ground.
Just sold my 06 Avalon. I was told about Crown and the now discontinued Avalons. I was surprised too. I know the 3rd Gen Avalon’s are still popular. Will miss the Avalon.
I'm happy I bought an Avalon before they went obsolete.
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I'm happy I bought an Avalon before they went obsolete.
Same here
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Love the new crown. About to move away from an ES in favor of the crown.
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I'm happy I bought an Avalon before they went obsolete.
Same here. The Avalon is a much better looking car than the Crown. The Crown looks like a hunchbacked crossover. It’s ugly and it doesn’t have the appeal and looks of the Avalon sedan and never will. The Avalon is a classier car. Period.
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Same here. The Avalon is a much better looking car than the Crown. The Crown looks like a hunchbacked crossover. It’s ugly and it doesn’t have the appeal and looks of the Avalon sedan and never will. The Avalon is a classier car. Period.
Yes. classier. Yesterday i showed my avalon to my friends (who all have not seen an Avalon at all) and they were blown by how spacious, how luxurious and how good it was.
Exactly one year ago today, my wife and I decided to replace her totaled RAV4 and my mint condition 2008 Avalon Limited with a new Avalon. We decided that since we were now retired, we didn't need two cars and with the resale value of our 2008 Avalon being incredibly substantial, and our insurance payoff being much more than we expected, we decided to consolidate our vehicles into one and proceeded to look at our options for a new Avalon Limited. We were shocked when we found out that Avalon production was being permanently discontinued in September 2022. Oh, no! We scrambled to find an available Limited in our home area of Phoenix. Nobody had what we wanted so we started looking elsewhere in Arizona. Nothing. Dang! We looked regionally and still came up goose eggs. Double Dang! We started looking at ANY Toyota dealership nationwide that had the Avalon Limited in stock with the options we desired. It was a real crap shoot. If they had what we wanted, they wouldn't sell to an out-of-state buyer, and if they did, the markup was off the scale. It was getting depressing until the good folks at Seeger Toyota in St. Louis called with an offer at MSRP (not up to $4,000 above like some other dealers!) for an Avalon with exactly the features we wanted. We jumped on it! Next thing we know, we are on a plane with $47,000 in cash (the dealer had been burned with out-of-state buyers in the past) and heading toward St. Louis to pick up our new 2022 Limited. It was a wonderful 1,500 mile drive back to Arizona in what is one fine car. (Definitely, NOT interested in the Crown.) We plan to enjoy this Toyota flagship for many, many years to come.
(PS: Traveling with $47,000 in cash to go buy a car out of state was a story all by itself!!!)
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After driving a few vehicles with buzzy 4-cylinder engines I have decided to pursue an ES350 to stay with the conventional V6, when the right combo of colors and features come along I will purchase. The Avalon is one of the best cars I have owned but its trade in value hard to pass up.
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(PS: Traveling with $47,000 in cash to go buy a car out of state was a story all by itself!!!)
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Me thinks it's time for Toyota to retire the name "Crown" for cars - in the US anyway. I'm not a king or queen and don't want to pretend to be one tooling around town in a Toyota "Crown". :geek:

Local dealer here said every "Crown" that comes is pre-sold, so even the sales people haven't had a chance to drive one and there are of course none to looked at.

I guess there are lots of happy kings and queens here, but I've yet to see a Toyota "Crown" on the road so far.

Happy Easter :)
Don't make it so obvious when you go through screening
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Fortunately, we were bit more discreet!
Me thinks it's time for Toyota to retire the name "Crown" for cars - in the US anyway. I'm not a king or queen and don't want to pretend to be one tooling around town in a Toyota "Crown". :geek:

Local dealer here said every "Crown" that comes is pre-sold, so even the sales people haven't had a chance to drive one and there are of course none to looked at.

I guess there are lots of happy kings and queens here, but I've yet to see a Toyota "Crown" on the road so far.

Happy Easter :)
I saw a Crown in a parking lot yesterday. Seems a little tall. I, for one, don't want an SUV. I prefer the blissful heavenly ride of an Avalon. The Crown is definitely NOT as attractive as my 2022 Avalon IMHO. No, thank you.
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Me thinks it's time for Toyota to retire the name "Crown" for cars - in the US anyway. I'm not a king or queen and don't want to pretend to be one tooling around town in a Toyota "Crown". :geek:

Local dealer here said every "Crown" that comes is pre-sold, so even the sales people haven't had a chance to drive one and there are of course none to looked at.

I guess there are lots of happy kings and queens here, but I've yet to see a Toyota "Crown" on the road so far.

Happy Easter :)
With all the hate on the Crown, I'd like to see one in person. Checked my local dealers and yeah... none in stock.
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