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Have an '87 4x4 pickup that every once in awhile will not start in park(auto
tranny, of course). When it does this I can crawl under the truck and simply
touch the neutral start switch and get back in and it'll fire up and give no
problems for awhile, however it never starts in neutral even if I push on
it. Is there some kind of adjustments or do these things wear out over time?
Oh yeah, my reverse lamps rarely work but if there's weight in the back of
the truck they do. Related?? I was told it was but can't see how. Are they
hard to replace?? Where could I find one for an old '87?? Thanks for any
info!

 

[Guest]

"Robbo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Have an '87 4x4 pickup that every once in awhile will not start in
> park(auto
> tranny, of course). When it does this I can crawl under the truck and
> simply
> touch the neutral start switch and get back in and it'll fire up and give
> no
> problems for awhile, however it never starts in neutral even if I push on
> it. Is there some kind of adjustments or do these things wear out over
> time?
> Oh yeah, my reverse lamps rarely work but if there's weight in the back of
> the truck they do. Related?? I was told it was but can't see how. Are they
> hard to replace?? Where could I find one for an old '87?? Thanks for any
> info!
>
>

Pop into your local dealer and splash out for two new switchs, the outlay
wont kill you but if your keen on crawling under the truck on wet roads and
dirt, be my guest.

 

[Guest]

Well, just got back from the stealer...$200 FOR A F'N SWITCH???!!!! WTF!!!
LOOKS LIKE I'LL BE HAULING A DAMN CREEPER WITH ALL-TERRAIN TIRES ON IT THIS
WINTER TO CLIMB UNDER THIS POS!!! WHERE DO THEY COME OFF CHARGING THAT KINDA
TIN FOR A DAMN '87 PICKUP??????!!!!!!! WTFlyingF!!!

"Scotty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Robbo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > Have an '87 4x4 pickup that every once in awhile will not start in
> > park(auto
> > tranny, of course). When it does this I can crawl under the truck and
> > simply
> > touch the neutral start switch and get back in and it'll fire up and
give
> > no
> > problems for awhile, however it never starts in neutral even if I push
on
> > it. Is there some kind of adjustments or do these things wear out over
> > time?
> > Oh yeah, my reverse lamps rarely work but if there's weight in the back
of
> > the truck they do. Related?? I was told it was but can't see how. Are
they
> > hard to replace?? Where could I find one for an old '87?? Thanks for any
> > info!
> >
> >
>
> Pop into your local dealer and splash out for two new switchs, the outlay
> wont kill you but if your keen on crawling under the truck on wet roads
and
> dirt, be my guest.
>
>

 

[Guest]

"Robbo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Well, just got back from the stealer...$200 FOR A F'N SWITCH???!!!! WTF!!!
> LOOKS LIKE I'LL BE HAULING A DAMN CREEPER WITH ALL-TERRAIN TIRES ON IT
> THIS
> WINTER TO CLIMB UNDER THIS POS!!! WHERE DO THEY COME OFF CHARGING THAT
> KINDA
> TIN FOR A DAMN '87 PICKUP??????!!!!!!! WTFlyingF!!!
>

I assume you tried locating one through a local autoparts store? Dealership
items are always overpriced but also the only place to get obscure items for
a particular vehicle.....

 

[Guest]

Stupid question, but have you tried starting the truck in Neutral instead of
Park? And have you tried moving the shift lever through its range of travel?

Fords had a problem very much like this -- the symptom was similar anyway.
The cars would not start in P, and the driver had to wiggle the shift lever
a bit to hit the switch so the car would start. The trouble was that the
switch would not be depressed by the linkage at rest, and the car thought it
was in R and would not start. We had to push the shifter forward -- floor
shift -- to get the car to recognize that it was in P, or pull the shifter
back to N, and the car would start just fine.

I don't know that your trouble is the linkage or not, but your description
of the fix that you do makes me think the linkage is the trouble. The old
Fords that I had could easily be shifted out of P and back, but the new cars
have to dick around with the brake pedal before the shifter can be moved.
Try pushing the shifter more towards P, and try putting it in N, if this
works then you'll know the linkage is out of whack. At the very least, if it
works, you won't have ot get out and climb underneath ...




"Robbo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Have an '87 4x4 pickup that every once in awhile will not start in
> park(auto
> tranny, of course). When it does this I can crawl under the truck and
> simply
> touch the neutral start switch and get back in and it'll fire up and give
> no
> problems for awhile, however it never starts in neutral even if I push on
> it. Is there some kind of adjustments or do these things wear out over
> time?
> Oh yeah, my reverse lamps rarely work but if there's weight in the back of
> the truck they do. Related?? I was told it was but can't see how. Are they
> hard to replace?? Where could I find one for an old '87?? Thanks for any
> info!
>
>

 

[Guest]

I'm with Mac, try locating the Neutral Safety Switch through the after
market. This part should be needed on millions of cars and trucks, and ought
not be a unique part that can only be purchased through the stealership.

I did a search on eBay for "toyota neutral safety switch" and got no hits,
but eBay suggested a couple of variations, and also displayed a vendor,
http://stores.ebay.com/mmerlinns-Transmission-Supply_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm,
that has what the call an Ebay Store. His store displayed a dozen or so
Neutral Safety Switches for about $75. I'd give this guy a call and talk it
over with him ...




"Robbo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Well, just got back from the stealer...$200 FOR A F'N SWITCH???!!!! WTF!!!
> LOOKS LIKE I'LL BE HAULING A DAMN CREEPER WITH ALL-TERRAIN TIRES ON IT
> THIS
> WINTER TO CLIMB UNDER THIS POS!!! WHERE DO THEY COME OFF CHARGING THAT
> KINDA
> TIN FOR A DAMN '87 PICKUP??????!!!!!!! WTFlyingF!!!
>
> "Scotty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> "Robbo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> > Have an '87 4x4 pickup that every once in awhile will not start in
>> > park(auto
>> > tranny, of course). When it does this I can crawl under the truck and
>> > simply
>> > touch the neutral start switch and get back in and it'll fire up and
> give
>> > no
>> > problems for awhile, however it never starts in neutral even if I push
> on
>> > it. Is there some kind of adjustments or do these things wear out over
>> > time?
>> > Oh yeah, my reverse lamps rarely work but if there's weight in the back
> of
>> > the truck they do. Related?? I was told it was but can't see how. Are
> they
>> > hard to replace?? Where could I find one for an old '87?? Thanks for
>> > any
>> > info!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Pop into your local dealer and splash out for two new switchs, the outlay
>> wont kill you but if your keen on crawling under the truck on wet roads
> and
>> dirt, be my guest.
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Guest]

Snce your trouble is intermittant, I don't think it's the linkage -- it
could be. My guess is the contacts on the switch are dirty. You should also
try -- in addition to cycling the shifter -- taking the switch off and
seeing it you can spray it with contact cleaner ...



"Robbo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Well, just got back from the stealer...$200 FOR A F'N SWITCH???!!!! WTF!!!
> LOOKS LIKE I'LL BE HAULING A DAMN CREEPER WITH ALL-TERRAIN TIRES ON IT
> THIS
> WINTER TO CLIMB UNDER THIS POS!!! WHERE DO THEY COME OFF CHARGING THAT
> KINDA
> TIN FOR A DAMN '87 PICKUP??????!!!!!!! WTFlyingF!!!
>
> "Scotty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> "Robbo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> > Have an '87 4x4 pickup that every once in awhile will not start in
>> > park(auto
>> > tranny, of course). When it does this I can crawl under the truck and
>> > simply
>> > touch the neutral start switch and get back in and it'll fire up and
> give
>> > no
>> > problems for awhile, however it never starts in neutral even if I push
> on
>> > it. Is there some kind of adjustments or do these things wear out over
>> > time?
>> > Oh yeah, my reverse lamps rarely work but if there's weight in the back
> of
>> > the truck they do. Related?? I was told it was but can't see how. Are
> they
>> > hard to replace?? Where could I find one for an old '87?? Thanks for
>> > any
>> > info!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Pop into your local dealer and splash out for two new switchs, the outlay
>> wont kill you but if your keen on crawling under the truck on wet roads
> and
>> dirt, be my guest.
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Guest]

Well, you could take ya tool kit to the local car park and "find" one. Or a
wrecker maybe?

Are you absolutely sure that its the switchs? Not just a dodgy connection?

Was the $200 for both units?

Your other option albeit somewhat dangerous is to bypass the neutral switch
until you can find one.

Another option is to remove the old unit and toake to yoru local auto shop
and ask if theres a unit there thats the same diameter etc and you may get
it for $20 and just have to change the connection terminals or something.
Theres more than one way to skin a cat.







"Robbo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Well, just got back from the stealer...$200 FOR A F'N SWITCH???!!!! WTF!!!
> LOOKS LIKE I'LL BE HAULING A DAMN CREEPER WITH ALL-TERRAIN TIRES ON IT
> THIS
> WINTER TO CLIMB UNDER THIS POS!!! WHERE DO THEY COME OFF CHARGING THAT
> KINDA
> TIN FOR A DAMN '87 PICKUP??????!!!!!!! WTFlyingF!!!
>
> "Scotty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> "Robbo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> > Have an '87 4x4 pickup that every once in awhile will not start in
>> > park(auto
>> > tranny, of course). When it does this I can crawl under the truck and
>> > simply
>> > touch the neutral start switch and get back in and it'll fire up and
> give
>> > no
>> > problems for awhile, however it never starts in neutral even if I push
> on
>> > it. Is there some kind of adjustments or do these things wear out over
>> > time?
>> > Oh yeah, my reverse lamps rarely work but if there's weight in the back
> of
>> > the truck they do. Related?? I was told it was but can't see how. Are
> they
>> > hard to replace?? Where could I find one for an old '87?? Thanks for
>> > any
>> > info!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Pop into your local dealer and splash out for two new switchs, the outlay
>> wont kill you but if your keen on crawling under the truck on wet roads
> and
>> dirt, be my guest.
>>
>>
>
>