Toyota Nation Forum banner

1 - 20 of 28 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
93 Posts
Discussion Starter #1 (Edited)
I have tried to read up on all the different types of headlights/foglight mods, but its getting really confusing. Can someone please give me a little run down of the differences/pros/cons of all the different types of headlights people are putting in. I hear about Projectors, Bi-Xenons, HID, and all sorts of numbers for different bulbs. I just need a rundown to get everything straight. IF theres a link already let me know, but can't find a real summary anywhere.

Thanks.

You can read below, but my problem is I have very poor night vision, so was wondering if there is a head light out there that would help me see better.
 

·
Certified Imposter
4X4 DC Sport, SB
Joined
·
1,408 Posts
I have tried to read up on all the different types of headlights/foglight mods, but its getting really confusing. Can someone please give me a little run down of the differences/pros/cons of all the different types of headlights people are putting in. I hear about Projectors, Bi-Xenons, HID, and all sorts of numbers for different bulbs. I just need a rundown to get everything straight. IF theres a link already let me know, but can't find a real summary anywhere.

Thanks.

There's no such thing, just opinions. Buy whatever makes your nipples hard and light up the night!

Just curious... what did your last slave die of? :lol: j/k

Welcome to the nation :thumbup: ;)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
93 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
Opinions on different light set ups.

Ok, so whats your opinion on different light set ups?

Heres the deal...my eyes/vision at night is pretty bad, so I need a light that is going to be bright and give me good distance so I can actually see that deer before I hit it. Anybody with bad night vision have any experience with this? What works for you?
 

·
My Other Truck
Joined
·
4,274 Posts
I would guess that HID lighting (closer to sunlight than halogen bulbs) would be better for you, as it seems to be for most people. But you should probably ask your eyecare professional.

Daniel Stern's website might have some useful info also. http://www.danielsternlighting.com/
 

·
i <3 Miley Sirus.
2005 toyota tacoma
Joined
·
1,280 Posts
i got my HID kit from www.xenoneyes.com for $155

theyre having a sale right now for $125 a kit til the end of feb. use code xenons4sale253.


my eyes are pretty bad that's why i have to wear glasses when i drive. the HID does help alot.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,017 Posts
I have pretty bad eye's at night because they get tired easily from a long day, and also just being tried in general. I just installed some 3k yellow fogs, and i love them because i can make out everything in relative distance 0-50ft and they are really good in the rain compaired to my 5150k fogs. My head lights are 5150k and but don't seem bright enough anymore. It's pretty clear and bright 100ft, and 150 is alright, but as light travels farther away the vision is crap. Luckly i have a high stance in my truck so i get a farther range of viability also, but when it's dark i turn on my 2 piaa 580's and like the saying goes, "god said let there be light" and you get the picture.
 

·
Premium Member
02 DubCab 4x4
Joined
·
3,009 Posts
you need to see and "eyedoc" first......you may need vision correction in the form of glasses. You may also have one of a host is diseases that can rob you of your night vision and depending on your age you may have the beginning of cataract which causes symptoms predominately at night. It may be as simple as getting a pair of glasses with a special coating called Crizal Alize (anti_reflective coating) that improves night vision by decreasing light scatter. pm me if you have any specific questions...... you can send my consulting fee to me by paypal. :)
 

·
Surfing TN via iPhone
05 Tacoma DC 4x4 TRD
Joined
·
10,653 Posts
You need white HIDs, around 4300k in color. If you go over 5000k then the light gets more blue and fatigues your eyes more. Check out our vendor forum and send a PM to him, Mod-Express. They sell good HID kits.
 

·
Premium Member
02 DubCab 4x4
Joined
·
3,009 Posts
You need white HIDs, around 4300k in color. If you go over 5000k then the light gets more blue and fatigues your eyes more. Check out our vendor forum and send a PM to him, Mod-Express. They sell good HID kits.
absolutely correct.... blue light scatters more and causes more glare at night, thus making your eyes tired...


You still need an eye exam though!!! :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,346 Posts
My night vision is getting worse with age and the SilverStars have helped a lot for me.

My dad had terrible night vision and his doctor prescribed a special tinted lense for driving at night. I am going to be talking to the doc about it myself at the next checkup.
 

·
...
05 TRD Sport Tacoma
Joined
·
755 Posts
You can read below, but my problem is I have very poor night vision, so was wondering if there is a head light out there that would help me see better.
Glasses man...it helped my night vision like nothing else could. Talk to eyedoc...maybe he'll let you know, but that's all I wear mine for is night driving.

EDIT: I see eyedoc already posted...but get yah, do what he says...
 

·
Insitu Taco
06 Taco D-Cab Sport
Joined
·
463 Posts
This is a dumb question - but...

With the xenon kit (like from xenoneyes.com), do you still have your high beams?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
93 Posts
Discussion Starter #14
Bad Eyes

Well, in response to eyedoc. I am only 24, so I hope I dont have Cataracts. I already wear contacts/glasses. I work as a Paramedic and am always up all night long working...plus spend alot of free time on the computer...not good for the eyes. I am thinking about getting LASIK so my eyes don't hurt from my contacts all the time.

ANYWAYS>.... Has anybody used SILVERSTARS by sylvania. they say "like HIDs". I saw a few posts on it...any more comments?
 

·
i <3 Miley Sirus.
2005 toyota tacoma
Joined
·
1,280 Posts
Well, in response to eyedoc. I am only 24, so I hope I dont have Cataracts. I already wear contacts/glasses. I work as a Paramedic and am always up all night long working...plus spend alot of free time on the computer...not good for the eyes. I am thinking about getting LASIK so my eyes don't hurt from my contacts all the time.

ANYWAYS>.... Has anybody used SILVERSTARS by sylvania. they say "like HIDs". I saw a few posts on it...any more comments?
i had those on my 95 accord before i had the tacoma. theyre good but the range isnt as far as HIDs. it looks like HIDs if you look at it straight on but as far as the range it's pretty much like stock but just brighter
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,346 Posts
My night vision is getting worse with age and the SilverStars have helped a lot for me.
ANYWAYS>.... Has anybody used SILVERSTARS by sylvania. they say "like HIDs". I saw a few posts on it...any more comments?
As I said above I am using the SilverStars, actually the SilverStar Ultras, and like them a lot. To save you some searching, here is some info I posted in another thread on this topic a while back.

Color is measured in Kelvin and the higher the color temp the bluer (whiter)the color, the lower is more yellow or reddish.

In Photoshop and similar programs, 6500K is considered to be daylight. "Daylight" flourescent lights output at about 4200K. OEM HID light output ~4250K or about the color temp of a flourescent bulb. Regular halogen lights are in the neighborhood of 3000-3400K and SiverStars are ~4000K. This is pretty close in color temp to the OEM HID lights.

Standard tungsten filament bulbs are in the 2500K area. The very reason that halogens are superior to regular bulbs (moving up the spectrum towards blue), is the reason that HIDs are superior to halogens. SilverStars, and maybe the NightHawk (I can not find any color temp data for them) are better is precisely because they are bluer and more to the color temp of the HIDs and the closer to daylight color which is the color range that the human eye sees best in.

Bottom line for me is that I can buy a lot of SilverStar bulbs for the cost of a HID conversion (especially when you are talking about having to do it to 2 vehicles, as the wife will not be left out :lol:).
Here is also a link to a very good article on the subject.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/disadvantages/disadvantages.html
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
93 Posts
Discussion Starter #17
thanks for the replys

Thanks for the reply. This is helping me out a bit...but at the same time its making it harder. the more information I get its almost like theres too much to comprehend. I don't really want to drop 150 on a set of HID's right now...so maybe I will just get a pair of the silverstars and see if they are any better.

thanks.

Also...anyone got some pictures of how they look at night? both HID or silverstars.
 

·
My Other Truck
Joined
·
4,274 Posts
There are two very different "SilverStar" bulbs. Also from Stern's site: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/good/good.html

"Osram, the well-established German lampmaker, sells a line of automotive bulbs they call "Silver Star". These are Osram's top-of-the-range headlamp bulbs, equivalent to Narva RangePower+50, GE Night Hawk, Philips VisionPlus, and Tungsram Megalight Premium. They produce the maximum legal amount of light while staying within legal power consumption limits. They have colorless clear glass.
Osram bought the well-established American lampmaker Sylvania in the early 1990s, so Osram is now Sylvania's parent company. Sylvania also sells a line of automotive bulbs they call "Silver Star", but it's not the same product. The Sylvania Silver Stars have blue glass. Light output is of legal levels, but as with all blue-filtered bulbs, you do not get more light from them. The Sylvania SilverStar bulbs have a very short lifetime, because the filament is overdriven to get a legal amount of light despite the blue glass.
To get the best possible seeing performance at night, don't choose extra-white bulbs."
 

·
Georgia
Joined
·
1,181 Posts
There are two very different "SilverStar" bulbs. Also from Stern's site: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/good/good.html

"Osram, the well-established German lampmaker, sells a line of automotive bulbs they call "Silver Star". These are Osram's top-of-the-range headlamp bulbs, equivalent to Narva RangePower+50, GE Night Hawk, Philips VisionPlus, and Tungsram Megalight Premium. They produce the maximum legal amount of light while staying within legal power consumption limits. They have colorless clear glass."
+1 And that's why I chose GE Nighthawk for 3 of my vehicles. Brighter than OEM, no risk in melting factory wire harness, last forever and $25 for a pair.
 

·
Surfing TN via iPhone
05 Tacoma DC 4x4 TRD
Joined
·
10,653 Posts
Thanks for the reply. This is helping me out a bit...but at the same time its making it harder. the more information I get its almost like theres too much to comprehend. I don't really want to drop 150 on a set of HID's right now...so maybe I will just get a pair of the silverstars and see if they are any better.

thanks.

Also...anyone got some pictures of how they look at night? both HID or silverstars.
I'd rather have OEM than Silverstars.
 
1 - 20 of 28 Posts
Top