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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: A 4-door production Sedan that isn't much slower than the LFA. :lol:
 

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I would LOVE to own one of those beauties. Much rather own one than a German sport sedan. BMW's and Mercedes are nice and all, but not worth the money since the repairs and overall cost of ownership is so high.

There's one at my nearby country club that comes by almost every other weekend. It looks and sounds badass. :naughty:
 

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So far, the LFA has made a lot of cars look fast :D
You definitely gotta be joking there. For a start, 900 lbs difference is nothing to joke about. Reality check: there is simply no comparison whatsoever on any level between an LFA and CTS-V. LFA is in simply a different league so let's just keep it real here.

Maybe keep your comparisons more relevant to the thread?

Caranddriver CTS-V sedan vs E63 AMG vs XJR:



Motortrend M3 vs RS5 vs CTS-V Coupe (more hard-edged tuned than the sedan):

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests..._vs_2011_cadillac_cts_v_comparison/specs.html



CTS-V (driven by GM factory driver John Heinricy) vs M5 SMG:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/comparison/2009-cadillac-cts-v-vs.-2008-bmw-m5-smg
 

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You definitely gotta be joking there. For a start, 900 lbs difference is nothing to joke about. Reality check: there is simply no comparison whatsoever on any level between an LFA and CTS-V. LFA is in simply a different league so let's just keep it real here.
You are right, they are in a completely different class and price range. So, wouldn't you think for $375K and being specifically designed and purpose built for road courses, it would be better than just 20 seconds faster at Nurburgring? :lol:

CTS-V: 7:59 (21 seconds slower than LFA)
LFA: 7:38 (14 seconds slower than ZR1)
ZR1: 7:24

Just sayin' ;)
 

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CTS-V: 7:59 (21 seconds slower than LFA)
LFA: 7:38 (14 seconds slower than ZR1) KEEP DREAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZR1: 7:24

Just sayin' ;)
Every time I see a Caddy, it just conjures an image of grandpa behind the wheel. I would never buy a Cadillac. Not because I'm a Toyota fanboi, but because those ugly vertical taillights, I just can't stand those taillights! :thumbsdow :facepalm:

As for the ZR1, for the money, I'd rather get an R8 :)
 

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Every time I see a Caddy, it just conjures an image of grandpa behind the wheel.
The same could be said with Toyota. The typical Toyota driver around my area sits very close to the steering wheel, has a zillion stuffed animals and is hesitant to make lane changes :lol:

Last night, my friend and I were stuck behind another 10th Gen Corolla like mine turning left, and they waited like 15 seconds after it was clear of opposing traffic before they actually even moved :facepalm:

I've seen a few CTS-Vs in my area (among all the M3s), and the silver looks nice in person.
 

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They can make all the ads they want, its not going to change the perception that Cadillacs are for old people.
 

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Been seeing a lot of younger people driving Cadillac. Older people seen to drive the old big ones. When I was 19 I bought a 1973 Lincoln Town Car. The big 4 door, like new, big 460 v-8. Great car.
 

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They can make all the ads they want, its not going to change the perception that Cadillacs are for old people.
This is likely to be true with a car like the DTS which is probably the only massive car left that has a V8 but also has FWD. Driving dynamics in mind its terrible but its comfortable which means only the elderly will like this one. It might also be true with the STS...although I haven't really seen many STS lately. The surprise however is that I haven't seen many elderly in the CTS, quite a lot are relatively young. I've found quite a few elderly drivers who actually don't like the CTS. I've never seen an old person drive an Escalade(kind of expected that), nor the SRX. I think Cadillac has lost a lot of the elderly base it once had, not too sure about Buick yet as I haven't seen as many of the new ones.

Of course if old people start disliking Cadillac and perhaps even Buick. They still have one company who made a car where the advertising is focused specifically on their age group.

 
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They can make all the ads they want, its not going to change the perception that Cadillacs are for old people.
Question for ya....

If I buy a Camry, will it be covered by the warranty I purchased for my kitchen appliances?
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This is likely to be true with a car like the DTS which is probably the only massive car left that has a V8 but also has FWD. Driving dynamics in mind its terrible but its comfortable which means only the elderly will like this one. It might also be true with the STS...although I haven't really seen many STS lately. The surprise however is that I haven't seen many elderly in the CTS, quite a lot are relatively young. I've found quite a few elderly drivers who actually don't like the CTS. I've never seen an old person drive an Escalade(kind of expected that), nor the SRX. I think Cadillac has lost a lot of the elderly base it once had, not too sure about Buick yet as I haven't seen as many of the new ones.

Of course if old people start disliking Cadillac and perhaps even Buick. They still have one company who made a car where the advertising is focused specifically on their age group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFU_oAHG8PI&
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I rented a CTS last year and it was small (read hard to get into) knees hit the dash when getting in. Lots of power but terrible to drive, had to return it because both front wheel bearing's were growling so loud I couldn't stand it.:rolleyes:

Soooo I returned it for a DTS which was a nice car but for sure a "grandpa" car, sluggish (I know its a ship) but it felt like I was driving a couch down LVB lmao. The engine sounded JUST like the old 4.9l V8 of years gone by.
 

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I rented a CTS last year and it was small (read hard to get into) knees hit the dash when getting in. Lots of power but terrible to drive, had to return it because both front wheel bearing's were growling so loud I couldn't stand it.:rolleyes:

Soooo I returned it for a DTS which was a nice car but for sure a "grandpa" car, sluggish (I know its a ship) but it felt like I was driving a couch down LVB lmao. The engine sounded JUST like the old 4.9l V8 of years gone by.

Hmmmmmm....

Toyota Avalon:

Front Leg room: 41.3"

Cadillac CTS:

Front leg room: 42.4"
 

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Hmmmmmm....

Toyota Avalon:

Front Leg room: 41.3"

Cadillac CTS:

Front leg room: 42.4"
Please re read the post, I said nothing about leg room, the leg room was fine.........good try though. :thumbsup:

My knees hit the dash because of the overhang into the door opening. Remember I actually DROVE the car not Googled the specs. Works much better that way.

Take Care :rockon:
 

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Please re read the post, I said nothing about leg room, the leg room was fine.........good try though. :thumbsup:

My knees hit the dash because of the overhang into the door opening. Remember I actually DROVE the car not Googled the specs. Works much better that way.

Take Care :rockon:
yes, but did you check your bias at the door first? :rolleyes:

I don't see much difference in dash clearance.



 

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yes, but did you check your bias at the door first? :rolleyes:

I don't see much difference in dash clearance.



Sigh.....:headbang: like I said if you actually drove the car you would know when you open the door the over hang of the dash hit my knee on the Caddy.

That is the difference between actually doing something and Googling it on the internet lol, you cant always tell everything from the internet.

Take Care :thumbsup:
 

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Sigh.....:headbang: like I said if you actually drove the car you would know when you open the door the over hang of the dash hit my knee on the Caddy.

That is the difference between actually doing something and Googling it on the internet lol, you cant always tell everything from the internet.

Take Care :thumbsup:
Yeah, and I slammed my finger in a car door when I was a kid. Damn car!!! :lol:

So, if I had driven the car, I would know you hit your knee on the dash? Hmmmm? :lol:
 
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