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Toyotanation we must unite! lol
Toyotanation we must unite! lol
Camry Bashing!
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Who cares. Clearly the guy is an idiot. He's a Mod and he doesn't know that's it's an I4 and not a V4?
stupid mod guy on an Acura website that doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground said:
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can't do much about it.. some people hate toyotas, some love it.
I own a honda and a toyota, so I hear bashing from both sides, but it all comes down to personal preference.
From my personal experience...
Toyota quality > Honda quality
Toyota performance < Honda performance.
Toyota builds great cars over all and honda makes one of the best 4 cylinder motors (K20 and F20 to name a couple).
I own a honda and a toyota, so I hear bashing from both sides, but it all comes down to personal preference.
From my personal experience...
Toyota quality > Honda quality
Toyota performance < Honda performance.
Toyota builds great cars over all and honda makes one of the best 4 cylinder motors (K20 and F20 to name a couple).
Toyota quality > Honda quality
As far as performance goes, I'd agree the Honda has it, but only because of the NSX. And it's not even close to being reasonably priced for the performance it offers. The Toyota Supra would take those honors.
As far as performance goes, I'd agree the Honda has it, but only because of the NSX. And it's not even close to being reasonably priced for the performance it offers. The Toyota Supra would take those honors.
Actually, he has some +11k posts. That post #1 refers to the first post in the thread. Anyway, back to the topic at hand.
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I think the Camry SE V6 has plenty of performance and handling -- while still having a smoother, quieter ride that any Accord.
And my 2004 Accord I4 EX-L coupe was an utter bucket of bolts piece of junk rattletrap -- oh, the drivetrain might go for years without problem, but the interior had abysmal build quality.
Interestingly, during all of my "upholstery work" with the old XLE, I checked out the prices for the same interior bits from an Accord -- the Honda stuff was LESS THAN HALF THE PRICE of the Toyota parts. And, in my experience, that equalled the quality differences between the two cars -- Honda was just "cheap junk" compared to the materials Toyota uses. For instance, I really don't expect that my Camry leather will wear out in less than 20,000 miles like the Honda leather did.
True, a Camry LE I4 is not going to be the most exciting car you can find, but you can get more luxury, and you can get more performance, should you so desire. And the LE I4 is still going to be a comfortable, quiet, competent, and reliable vehicle, at a fine price -- that's why Toyota sells so many of them!
And my 2004 Accord I4 EX-L coupe was an utter bucket of bolts piece of junk rattletrap -- oh, the drivetrain might go for years without problem, but the interior had abysmal build quality.
Interestingly, during all of my "upholstery work" with the old XLE, I checked out the prices for the same interior bits from an Accord -- the Honda stuff was LESS THAN HALF THE PRICE of the Toyota parts. And, in my experience, that equalled the quality differences between the two cars -- Honda was just "cheap junk" compared to the materials Toyota uses. For instance, I really don't expect that my Camry leather will wear out in less than 20,000 miles like the Honda leather did.
True, a Camry LE I4 is not going to be the most exciting car you can find, but you can get more luxury, and you can get more performance, should you so desire. And the LE I4 is still going to be a comfortable, quiet, competent, and reliable vehicle, at a fine price -- that's why Toyota sells so many of them!
The new SI's and S2k's
i think the design goals were different since the design and construction
camrys market to families and for the comfort of the ride... i'm sure they had the technology to make the camry sporty as hell but it wasn't what they were aiming for.
accord appears to be marketing the new families and young teens. who love the high torque fast cars.
but still toyota quality >honda quality... and shouldn't that matter the most if your buying your car haha
camrys market to families and for the comfort of the ride... i'm sure they had the technology to make the camry sporty as hell but it wasn't what they were aiming for.
accord appears to be marketing the new families and young teens. who love the high torque fast cars.
but still toyota quality >honda quality... and shouldn't that matter the most if your buying your car haha
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thanks for the correction, i didnt look fully..
ahh theyre acura people...what are you gonna do?
theyre just the grown up versions of the kids that used to mod out civics and such....they way they see it Honda > all
sure honda builds amazing 4 cyl engines (K series, F20 and F22 S2k motors, B series), but they cant build worthwhile larger engines, and toyota definitly takes the honors in quality tho...my dad has an 05 TL and the interior is absolute junk :thumbsdow, as the leather is worn, the dash faded, headliner is collapsng around the 3rd brake light and other small issues...the paint is also shit, and looks terrible even though its always handwashed and waxed monthly....my dad had been buying acuras since 1992 and this is by far one of the worst cars weve had...i think hell be going with the lexus GS350 next time...
but no car is perfect, and how can you trust bashing of the camry by an acura fourm? its like talking about how we bash the accord here from time to time...its all preference and perception IMO.
theyre just the grown up versions of the kids that used to mod out civics and such....they way they see it Honda > all
sure honda builds amazing 4 cyl engines (K series, F20 and F22 S2k motors, B series), but they cant build worthwhile larger engines, and toyota definitly takes the honors in quality tho...my dad has an 05 TL and the interior is absolute junk :thumbsdow, as the leather is worn, the dash faded, headliner is collapsng around the 3rd brake light and other small issues...the paint is also shit, and looks terrible even though its always handwashed and waxed monthly....my dad had been buying acuras since 1992 and this is by far one of the worst cars weve had...i think hell be going with the lexus GS350 next time...
but no car is perfect, and how can you trust bashing of the camry by an acura fourm? its like talking about how we bash the accord here from time to time...its all preference and perception IMO.
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Exactly what I'm talking about. Acurazine has a "problems" forum for each model, and if you REALLY want to see people screaming about car problems, just go check out the Acurazine TL "problem" forum. Honda build quality, especially in its interiors, is just absolute GARBAGE.
At any rate, if any TL owner gives you crap, just ask him if he's managed to kill all of his rattles yet.
Well, heck, let me be your guide:
http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=23
Geez, just a quick look through the subjects, and it's rattles, rattles, rattles, rattles, rattles, rattles, rattles, rattles. Plus other miscellaneous stuff like transmission problems, stuff falling off the car, instrument cluster going TU, bent valves, "car breaking down," and so on. And this is the current generation TL, folks -- no 'old beaters' in the bunch.
Yeah, fine, go ahead Camry bashers -- spend another ten grand, and get a TL that you can REALLY start whining about!
someone who thinks the V4 still is used = n00b
if youre gonna bash, at least get your facts straight
but as stated above, honda/acura people don't really care for us toyota/lexus people anyway....ive met some real col honda guys and some that are asshats...sadly the steriotypes do apply, but not all honda folk are bad. depends on the person honestly
if youre gonna bash, at least get your facts straight
but as stated above, honda/acura people don't really care for us toyota/lexus people anyway....ive met some real col honda guys and some that are asshats...sadly the steriotypes do apply, but not all honda folk are bad. depends on the person honestly
^ i know what you mean! alot of the honda "tuners" are huge fan boys and will hate on anything with 4 wheels and doesnt have a "H" badge on it.
I drive a honda too, i stoped driving the camry when i got the honda. I miss driving the camry. If my honda wasnt stick id pick the camry over it any day.
I drive a honda too, i stoped driving the camry when i got the honda. I miss driving the camry. If my honda wasnt stick id pick the camry over it any day.
The Guy is a Fucking Idiot Yes Honda's are tighter in the Handiling department but Toyota is know for it's smoothness and relibablity and now with the 2GR-FE V6 engine the Camry is a rocketship on fourwheels. Maybe he's mad because his beloved 2008 Honda Accord V6 Still comes with a 5-Speed Auto :lol::lol::lol: While the New Camry V6 has a 6-Speed, And from his consistant ranting it makes him seem like even more of a dipshit.
When did they make a Camry V4 this guy obvioulsy knows nothing about toyota's let alone cars in general. I now feel dummer for reading his posts. :headbang: :bukkake: Sorry Got a little carried away with the smileys I think their cute.
When did they make a Camry V4 this guy obvioulsy knows nothing about toyota's let alone cars in general. I now feel dummer for reading his posts. :headbang: :bukkake: Sorry Got a little carried away with the smileys I think their cute.
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