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I think I recall seeing a discussion on this, but wasn't able to find it....

http://www.jbltoyota.com/toyota_camry/amplifier.asp

The amp has 8 channels going to 8 speakers...

Where is speaker #7 and #8? I only see 6...

Two on dash, two on front, two in rear.

or was there 4 in rear?

By the way, the 2007 Lexus ES350 (suppose to be a camry) got hell a lot better sound quality!
 

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I think I recall seeing a discussion on this, but wasn't able to find it....

http://www.jbltoyota.com/toyota_camry/amplifier.asp

The amp has 8 channels going to 8 speakers...

Where is speaker #7 and #8? I only see 6...

Two on dash, two on front, two in rear.

or was there 4 in rear?

By the way, the 2007 Lexus ES350 (suppose to be a camry) got hell a lot better sound quality!

The rear shelf speakers are two-way speakers, subs with intregrated tweeters, thus 2 speakers in one on the rear shelf. This totals:

2 tweeters in front
2 subs in front doors
2 subs on rear shelf
2 tweeters on rear shelf
 

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dang, that suck..cheated me on real speakers ahahh

Anyone know if the JBL amps are adjustment (power adjustment) or have replaced it with something better, but kept the JBL speakers?
 

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Subs only on the front doors? Is that right? I also heard that the JBL amps are tuned for the speakers....so, replacing the front door speakers with some high quality 2 way or even 3 way to get the tweeters close to the sub is not a viable option?

PS: I read in the manual that the Camry has only 6 speakers...not sure where you read the 8 speaker count?
 

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Subs only on the front doors? Is that right? I also heard that the JBL amps are tuned for the speakers....so, replacing the front door speakers with some high quality 2 way or even 3 way to get the tweeters close to the sub is not a viable option?

PS: I read in the manual that the Camry has only 6 speakers...not sure where you read the 8 speaker count?
toyota likes to say "8 speakers in 6 locations". the manual will treat a single rear 2-way speaker (technically 2 speakers) as one speaker.
 

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Camry Brochure, toyota.com, Service Manual are some places you can look for the info.
 

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Just this:

Speaker Specifications (JBL Premium Sound)
Location Speaker Type Caliber Impedance Input Rated
(1) Front Tweeter x 2 65 mm (2.6 in.) 2 W 20 W

(2) Front Midrange x 2 150 x 225mm (6.0 x 9.0 in.) 2.2 W 36 W

(3) Rear Midrange x 2 150 x 225mm (6.0 x 9.0 in.) 2.2 W 36 W
Rear Tweeter x 2 COAXIAL 6.5 W 18 W
 

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The rear shelf speakers are two-way speakers, subs with intregrated tweeters, thus 2 speakers in one on the rear shelf. This totals:

2 tweeters in front
2 subs in front doors
2 subs on rear shelf
2 tweeters on rear shelf
There are no subs in the car. The speakers in the doors are mids, not subs. There is a difference.

The rear speakers are coaxials so there are two drivers even though it looks like only one.
 

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The new Camry is the first Toyota to take advantage of JBL’s new Distributed Subwoofer System (DSS), which optimizes base response throughout the cabin in unique fashion, utilizing 4 unique, high performance 6 x 9 inch woofers in the front and rear of the cabin to accomplish this feat.
This is the front dashboard area
Front Mid-Range (2) 65mm mid-range metal cone speakers (left and right) are used, mounted on the left- and right-hand instrument panel shelf. A metallic compound was selected for the construction of the mid-ranges, since it is both extremely lightweight and uniform, minimizing high-frequency distortion, with sufficient size to allow operating up into mid-frequency response range when needed.
This is what it said about the front

Front Woofers (2) 6 x 9inch woofers (left and right) are used, one in each front door’s lower trim panel. These unique, high performance woofers specialize in bass output, enabling JBL’s new Distributed Subwoofer System (DSS).
and what it said about the rear

Rear Sound
(2) 6 x 9inch coaxial full-range loudspeakers with integral 25mm metal-dome tweeters mounted left- and righthand on the upper surface of the rear package shelf.
The woofer portion of these unique, high performance speakers is responsible for rear passenger cabin bass response, enabling JBL’s new Distributed Subwoofer System (DSS).
This is the amp

Amplifier (1) The 8-channel digital signal processing (DSP) amplifier, rated nominally at 55 watts/channel and 440 watts of overall power output, is mounted underneath the front passenger seat.
•This amplifier first converts the incoming audio signal (CD, broadcast) into multiple channels, then delivers specific information to each of the JBL system’s loudspeakers, ensuring optimum audio imaging to each of the vehicle’s seating locations.
Each of the amplifier’s eight digital output channels delivers a varying amount of power to each of Camry’s 8 specialized loudspeakers, optimizing balance and enhancing tonal blending, regardless of the music or broadcast source.
 

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There are no subs in the car. The speakers in the doors are mids, not subs. There is a difference.

The rear speakers are coaxials so there are two drivers even though it looks like only one.
...yeah, njeralds link explains that quite nice (midrange speakers, "distributed subs"). What I try to find out if it makes sense to replace the front door speakers with better range mid's (I found some good 2Ohm's) and even ad a 2 way to it. But I can't find more info than what Njerald listed above. I want to know as I need to open my front doors very soon to do the tint work anyway. Replacing the speakers and adding some mat's would be easy at the same time. Any help is appreciated.
 

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This is the front dashboard area
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This is what it said about the front
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and what it said about the rear
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This is the amp
Yes, that is a nice general description but tells you nothing about their real spec ...how is the frequency output of the amp managed, cross overs, gain adjust etc, what is the range of the individual speakers, noise factor etc. I like my sound but if I can do a simple swap with to a high end 6x9 to make it even better I would do that.
 

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Anyone tried to swap the stock AMP with something better (fitting in the same place) or replaced their rear 6x9?
 

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As far as stock sound systems go the 6th generation Camry's have one of the best on the market....but personally i dont like too much "stockness" on my car...In my case i opted for 4 6x9inch kenwood kfc-6982ie 5 way speakers....each boasting 500 watts max power 80 rms powered by a Lanzar MXA414 2000 watt 4 channel amp delivering 500 watts to each speaker and 75 rms....As for subwoofers i opted for 2 12inch Almani S7's boasting 3000 watts max power with 1500 watts rms...Both woofers being powered by its own Massive DB3000 amp that pushes 3000 Watts Max power and 1500 watts rms at 1 ohm...I also opted to take out the stock deck an replace it with a Pioneer AVH-P3100 DVD.....as far as the installation for the door speakers go....it was pretty simple....unscrew all screws found around the outer edge of the door.....after all that is said an done....just give it a gentle tug annd out should come ur panel....just dont tug too hard or ur stock wireing may suffer some damage....
 

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i just purchased a used camry se with the JBL premium 8 speaker system. 6 speakers, 8 different drivers. replacing the speakers is not as simple as it sounds. you must remove the back seat to get the rear panel out, along with the the side pillar covers. this is just the beginning of the problems. the rear jbl speakers are component, with the crossover points done in the under seat amp. i do not know the xover frequencies. the 6 disc changer jbl head unit uses serial bus digital signals to feed the amp. so adding an aftermarket amp is a chore. you will need a line ouput converter, audio control ls6i or similar. this converts the post amp speaker signal to an rca preout signal to feed a sub amp and main amps. i stole the signal from the rear speaker wires while i had the seat out. the jbl amp feeds the rear speakers a high frequency to the tweeters and a low frequency to the woofers. took a while to figure out what was what with that issue. no prints or anything on line without paying $. i fed the left and right high signals to input 1 and the lows to input 2 of the lc6i. used the signal summing to get a full range signal to feed my amps. to just replace the speakers is a gamble , betting on the sound will be good with jbl amp xover setting to match your new speakers, which would have to be component, not coaxial. to just add a subwoofer, as i was only intending on doing, is a major task for an amature. luckily i am an audiophile geek with tins of electrical experience. use critical mass ss69 6x9 speakers, and the xover frequencies of the jbl amp will match very well with these speakers, if you don't want to add good amps and such. these speakers are coaxial but are biwire or biamp capable, i got a set on ebay for 160$. long story short, go all out or just stay stock, or replace everything stock and loose all the goodies like aux input, steering wheel controls, bluetooth, and all that. it is all ran by the jbl system. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!

jbl factory head unit 6 disc changer, nice piece!
audio control lc6i line output converter (magic little box made it all happen)
jl 500/1 amp on a jl 10w6v2 sub
precision power ppi 4240 4x30amp
critical mass ss69 rear speakers
focal 165 k2 6 1/2 component front speakers
and a million dollars worth of wiring and goodies

AWSOME SOUNDING SYSTEM
 

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you might get by using the wires you see at the bottom of the woofer in the trunk. but those are not the only wires feeding the speaker. that is just the low frequency, the high frequency go to the tweeter via seperate wires. the yellow wires are positive and the red are negative, i know, goes against common sense. feed a line output converter audio control lc2i, check it out. i just purchased a used 07 camry se with the JBL premium 8 speaker system. 6 speakers, 8 different drivers. replacing the speakers is not as simple as it sounds. you must remove the back seat to get the rear panel out, along with the the side pillar covers. this is just the beginning of the problems. the rear jbl speakers are component, with the crossover points done in the under seat amp. i do not know the xover frequencies. the 6 disc changer jbl head unit uses serial bus digital signals to feed the amp. so adding an aftermarket amp is a chore. you will need a line ouput converter, audio control ls6i or similar. this converts the post amp speaker signal to an rca preout signal to feed a sub amp and main amps. i stole the signal from the rear speaker wires while i had the seat out. the jbl amp feeds the rear speakers a high frequency to the tweeters and a low frequency to the woofers. took a while to figure out what was what with that issue. no prints or anything on line without paying $. i fed the left and right high signals to input 1 and the lows to input 2 of the lc6i. used the signal summing to get a full range signal to feed my amps. to just replace the speakers is a gamble , betting on the sound will be good with jbl amp xover setting to match your new speakers, which would have to be component, not coaxial. to just add a subwoofer, as i was only intending on doing, is a major task for an amature. luckily i am an audiophile geek with tins of electrical experience. use critical mass ss69 6x9 speakers, and the xover frequencies of the jbl amp will match very well with these speakers, if you don't want to add good amps and such. these speakers are coaxial but are biwire or biamp capable, i got a set on ebay for 160$. long story short, go all out or just stay stock, or replace everything stock and loose all the goodies like aux input, steering wheel controls, bluetooth, and all that. it is all ran by the jbl system. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!

jbl factory head unit 6 disc changer, nice piece!
audio control lc6i line output converter (magic little box made it all happen)
jl 500/1 amp on a jl 10w6v2 sub
precision power ppi 4240 4x30amp
critical mass ss69 rear speakers
focal 165 k2 6 1/2 component front speakers
and a million dollars worth of wiring and goodies

AWSOME SOUNDING SYSTEM
 
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