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Hi guys new to your site hope you can help. Just bought a 2012 Camry 2.5 (4 cyl). I like to do my own service work even though they will do it for free for first 25,000 miles. The manual calls for 0w-20 oil and if you use 5w-30 to replace it with the 0w-20 on the next oil change. They also recommend it be changed ever 10,000 miles. My questions are 0w-20? this is very thin oil, can I go up to 5w-30 all the time?, I live in Maryland the climate is not that cold in the winter. Also is this a synthetic oil ? I like those they seem to make the engines last longer. If not what do you guys recommend? Thanks,Andy D.
 

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toyota 0-20 is full synthetic oil and one of the best on the market.
you sure can use 5-30, but 0-20 is better for new engine and new 2.5 designed with new standards in mind, so I think it is best oil for this motor and 0-20 will get you better bit MPG.
I would switch to 5-30 or 0-30 after 100K and only if engine will start consume 0-20 oil.
I’m gonna let dealer change my oil just because it is free. Toyota oil is $7+ per qt, so I’ll take it for free with pleasure.:)
After free is gone :( I’ll use Valvoline Synpower– used it for long time on few different cars.

I’m planning to change filter on my own at first 1K miles or so, I believe it is in order for all new engines, to keep system clean from possible metal shredding.
But after that, 0-20 toyota oil, 10K intervals.
 

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Actually, they don't recommend you use 5w-30 at all. The manual says that only IF 0w-20 is not available, to replace the oil with 5w-20 and replace it with 0w-20 oil after 5000 miles.

The Camry 4 cylinder has had a 10,000 mile oil change interval with 0w-20 synthetic oil since the 2010 model year, it's nothing brand new. I run 10k intervals on my 2011 SE and everything is fine, there's no need to worry :thumbsup:
 

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The factory guys told me just yesterday that todays engine tolerences are so tight, that 0-20W is very important.
They gave an example. The 10-'11 Prius won't start if the oil is heavier.
 

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Thanks To All, Tight new engine and winter coming sounds like the 0W-20 is the ticket. I think I will replace that filter at 1,000 miles just because of the building process though i think it is better than the old days. Any other service issues i should know about just give me a shout. Thanks Again, Andy D.
 

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In the Pre-Delivery Inspection, it is customary to change the oil and filter from the factory. Granted, it's usually only a few miles, but there is that.

Just so you know :)
 

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It is on the PDI sheet as a to-do, so it should be done. We do it with every vehicle but I can't guarantee other dealers will.
 

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It is on the PDI sheet as a to-do, so it should be done. We do it with every vehicle but I can't guarantee other dealers will.
Really? Probably makes some sense for the oil, but the filter too? :facepalm: If I was the PDI tech, I'd save all those filters and sell them or use them for on their own cars...if there's a 90915-20004 filter on the car (ones from Japan), you can make even more $$.
 

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Most new Toyotas have the Japan filter, but it's harder to tell now because the vast majority of Toyotas have cartridge filters. Camry, Avalon, Sienna, Tundra, Corolla, Rav4, Prius, etc. I believe only the Yaris, Matrix 2.4, and Tacoma/FJ V6 still have the spin on filters.
 

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Change your oil every 3000 miles, lube it or lose it. :)
Got disco-era bell-bottoms as the core of your wardrobe, too?

Seriously, the old school 3K OCI made sense when fuel control was so poor that the only way to keep an engine running was to wash fuel down the cylinders and contaminate the oil. Since EFI and better metallurgy, it's a relic of the past, consigned to the same closet as breaker-points ignitions, Stromberg carburetors, and cast-iron engines.
 

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Use the oil that the manual recommends. End of story.

Toyota has recommended 0w20 for Camry Hybrids since they came out in 2007. I've run nothing but 0w20 for 68,000 trouble-free miles, with oil changes every 5K.

Just be lucky- the stuff is readily available nowadays. Back in 2008/09 hardly anyone carried the stuff.
 

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got disco-era bell-bottoms as the core of your wardrobe, too?

Seriously, the old school 3k oci made sense when fuel control was so poor that the only way to keep an engine running was to wash fuel down the cylinders and contaminate the oil. Since efi and better metallurgy, it's a relic of the past, consigned to the same closet as breaker-points ignitions, stromberg carburetors, and cast-iron engines.
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I am surprised by how many people still live and die by the 1k mile change and 3k mile oil changes on a new car. I guess some people can’t move on from the past
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maybe so.
I'm not gonna do 3k, but I changed my oil at 900 miles and glad I did it.
I found some yellow gooey substance on the bottom of the filter case.
not sure what is it but sure it shouldn't be there.
 

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not all toyota dealers use toyota oil. some use quaker state or mobil1 and of course they could use other brands. you can call ahead and verify what oil they use before going down there.
spoke to service adviser at deal ship where I'm planning to change my oil.
he said they use Toyota oil, same oil they sell in parts, in 1qt. bottles
he also said that I can request Mobil1 oil for no charge for me...

I'm perfectly fine with toyota oil. only thing than sounds fishy to me is that they use oil from bottles, not 80 or so gal jars...

BS or it can be truth?
 

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Nothing wrong with that, some people prefer that over bulk.
yes, I know. I prefer that too.
But isn't that waste of money for dealer?
bulk oil even "big name" cost much less for the dealer and here they using 1qt. bottles?
sounds too good to be truth...

I even offered to pay some extra $ for bottled oil, but been told I don't have to pay extra and they gonna use bottles anyway ...
 
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