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Depends on the dealership, I don't think it's BS.
as far as I know it is incorrect.They even told me not to do the first oil change early because the motor is already broken in at the factory and it'll be a waste of money.
its the truth. my dads dealer started with Toyota 1qt bottles. most dealers have a hose that runs from ceiling that pumps from a central location which would either need to changed out or have another hose added for the new oil spec. probably a lot cheaper to have the bottles until all models are rolled over into the synthetic oil.spoke to service adviser at deal ship where I'm planning to change my oil.
he said they use Toyota oil, same oil they sell in parts, in 1qt. bottles
he also said that I can request Mobil1 oil for no charge for me...
I'm perfectly fine with toyota oil. only thing than sounds fishy to me is that they use oil from bottles, not 80 or so gal jars...
BS or it can be truth?
vw and other german engines designed for thicker oil. late japanese motors got much tighter gaps between parts and require thinner oil.What about the oil milage, some experiance. VW in our county recomments 18000 miles for oilchange. Toyota in our country recomments 10000 miles. This is what I done with my gen 5 camry. When I sold that 2.4L 2002 camry, the speedo had 160000 miles on it. I do the oil changes by my self at 10000 miles and always used 10 W 40 motoroil. Never had problems with the engine.
Now in my 2.5 Gen 6 camry I use 5 w 30 oil and change this at 10000 miles. The engine is running much shoother than, when I bought this car in America and was running with 0 w 20.
Did anyone ever did an oil anlyse at 10000 miles?
Than you can see, the oil can be used for further milages .
I understand what your saying. The toyota dealer in my country gives other advice. My 2002 2.4 camry was an vvti to. The Dealers advice was 10 w 40 for that engine. even in wintertime.vw and other german engines designed for thicker oil. late japanese motors got much tighter gaps between parts and require thinner oil.
you sure can use 5-30 oil on 2.5.
but as far as I know 0-20 is GF-4 certified and 5-30 is not.
besides, dual VVT-I needs certain thickness to operate properly and 5-30 is out of that range.
I've seen oil analyzes and long term test results of 0-20 toyota oil and 0-20 mobil 1. they both good up to 20K miles, but right around 12-13K level of additives drops to to the point were engine parts wear starts.
at around 70-80K if engine will start consume some oil I might switch to 0-30, but new engine should run more efficient on 0-20.
It calls for 0w-20 and 10,000 miles all the time. They say IF 0w-20 is not available, that you can use 5w-20, but then after 5000 miles you must replace it with 0w-20 again.It's just weird how cars continue to require less maintenance. A "tune-up" used to mean adjustment to carb/throttle body, timing, spark plugs, wires, etc. But with the advancement of technology, most tune-ups are just a set of new plugs.
I still can't get over my head the new standards of oil and the longer oil change interval. I live by the 3000 mile rule sadly. Our two Nissan (07' and 11') recommend 4k oil change and I felt uncomfortable at first but went with it. Now, with our new 12' Camry, the dealership recommend 10K miles on full synthetic but 5K on a blend. I thought all 0W-20 was full synthetic but I guess they were talking about a 5W-20 blend. :confuse: They even told me not to do the first oil change early because the motor is already broken in at the factory and it'll be a waste of money.
Not sure if Toyota's 2 year maintenance plan covers oil change every 5k or 10k. Either way, I'm changing it every 5K with full synthetic if they don't cover it. Overkill? Maybe, but I can sleep better. :lol:
2002 and 2010 engines are very different.understand what your saying. The toyota dealer in my country gives other advice. My 2002 2.4 camry was an vvti to. The Dealers advice was 10 w 40 for that engine. even in wintertime.
At this moment they recomment 5 w30 for almost all types of engines.
when i saw that mentioned earlier in this thread i asked my family that works at a dealer in southern california and also called the two biggest toyota dealers in vegas and they all said they DO NOT change the oil when they pdi a car. i always knew they didn't, but with the change to synthetic i could have been wrong. is there a chance other dealers do, sure but it's probably slim to none and i would bet no dealers change the oil when they pdi.Hi All...Just to be clear, in the "Pre-Delivery Inspection", both the Oil and Filter are changed?...What is the rationale behind this? Do they intentionally use a really cheap oil/filter combination at the Factory? Kinda goes against the notion of "Factory Fill", ie. Mobil 1, Pennzoil Ultra, etc.