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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Hi Everyone,

I am in the market for a new car and am debating whether to get the Camry or
the Accord. I have had Toyotas, but, no Hondas. I realize I am posting to
the Toyota group, but, I still want to ask this question.

Overall, which car is better the Camry or Accord? In southern California, I
get the impression that an Accord is more expensive than the Camry - both
cars with similar options.

Hoping to hear from you...

-Joe.
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
Joe wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am in the market for a new car and am debating whether to get the Camry or
> the Accord. I have had Toyotas, but, no Hondas. I realize I am posting to
> the Toyota group, but, I still want to ask this question.
>
> Overall, which car is better the Camry or Accord? In southern California, I
> get the impression that an Accord is more expensive than the Camry - both
> cars with similar options.
>
> Hoping to hear from you...
>
> -Joe.


Camry's and Accords don't really compete against each other they are
different cars, people who like Camry's should look at Sonata's,
LaCrosses's, Aura's, etc (quiet, roomy, soft, highway driver type
vechiles) people who like Accord type cars look at Mazda's,Altima's.
Passats,( noisier, harsh riding, more sporty looking/driving cars)
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 09:52:39 -0800, Joe wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am in the market for a new car and am debating whether to get the Camry
> or the Accord. I have had Toyotas, but, no Hondas. I realize I am posting
> to the Toyota group, but, I still want to ask this question.
>
> Overall, which car is better the Camry or Accord? In southern California,
> I get the impression that an Accord is more expensive than the Camry -
> both cars with similar options.
>
> Hoping to hear from you...
>
> -Joe.



My Mom has an '86 Camry, I had an '88 Accord.

Either one is a good choice.
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Overall, which car is better the Camry or Accord?


I don't see why you'd buy either instead of a Prius.
At highway speed the Prius is just as quiet inside as either,
and quieter at low speed. It gets better gas mileage in most conditions,
costs about the same, and has lower maintenance costs.
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Prius is SLOW, SMALL, and UNSAFE.


"Bill Tuthill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Overall, which car is better the Camry or Accord?

>
> I don't see why you'd buy either instead of a Prius.
> At highway speed the Prius is just as quiet inside as either,
> and quieter at low speed. It gets better gas mileage in most conditions,
> costs about the same, and has lower maintenance costs.
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
I actually considered the Prius, but, decided against it because it is a
smaller and I think it has a lot of newer (hybrid) technology that can be
expensive to fix if it ever breaks. Correct me if I am wrong.

-Joe.

"Bill Tuthill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Overall, which car is better the Camry or Accord?

>
> I don't see why you'd buy either instead of a Prius.
> At highway speed the Prius is just as quiet inside as either,
> and quieter at low speed. It gets better gas mileage in most conditions,
> costs about the same, and has lower maintenance costs.
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:06:25 -0800, John wrote:

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> Prius is SLOW, SMALL, and UNSAFE.



Never driven one, huh?

Slow? Initial torque come from the electric motor, that produces most of
it's torque from 0 RPM. If your statement is made from watching Prius
drivers, bear in mind they bought the car to squeeze fuel economy out of a
gallon of gas, and are probably driving accordingly. A Prius will smoke a
lot of cars with larger engines.

Small? Never been inside one, eh? The are cavernous inside. My Mom has
severe arthritis and has trouble getting in and out of a lot of cars, but
loved it when I brought a Prius home for a week. And I'm a big guy and had
no troulbe getting comfortable in it.

I also used it to carry my bass amp a couple times, 2x15" cabinet. It fit
with no trouble and had room for the PA and the guitar player's amp and
gear, too.

Unsafe? One of the better IIHS organization's ratings for a compact car.
Rated 4th overall.


Say, you talk out the top of you hat, don't you?
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Joe wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am in the market for a new car and am debating whether to get the Camry or
> the Accord. I have had Toyotas, but, no Hondas. I realize I am posting to
> the Toyota group, but, I still want to ask this question.
>
> Overall, which car is better the Camry or Accord? In southern California, I
> get the impression that an Accord is more expensive than the Camry - both
> cars with similar options.


Toyota & Lexus prices are very low in Southern California. Many people
from Northern California go down there to buy Toyotas and Lexuses. In
fact some dealers will even pick you up at the airport.

Personally I like the Camry better, though the 2008 Accord looks good.
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Joe wrote:
> I actually considered the Prius, but, decided against it because it is a
> smaller and I think it has a lot of newer (hybrid) technology that can be
> expensive to fix if it ever breaks. Correct me if I am wrong.


There is _one_ reason to buy a hybrid at this time. It's to be able to
use the carpool lanes with single occupancy. The Prius is much more
expensive than the Camry LE and CE (which are heavily discounted off
MSRP), as well as being smaller, and less safe. The actual MPG
difference is small. The biggest issue with the hybrids is the battery
life. The manufacturers say the batteries are good for ten years, but
they don't specify at what remaining charge capacity they consider the
battery pack to be defective. In ten years, the battery will probably
still function, but probably at less than 50% of original capacity.

I'd wait for the plug-in hybrid, which Toyota has promised. Unless you
need to use the carpool lanes solo.
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
If your looking at the 4 door, I'd go with the Camry. If your the 2
door kind of guy, the Accord.
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:50:39 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote:

>There is _one_ reason to buy a hybrid at this time. It's to be able to
>use the carpool lanes with single occupancy.


Not in my state
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am in the market for a new car and am debating whether to get the Camry
> or the Accord. I have had Toyotas, but, no Hondas. I realize I am posting
> to the Toyota group, but, I still want to ask this question.
>
> Overall, which car is better the Camry or Accord? In southern California,
> I get the impression that an Accord is more expensive than the Camry -
> both cars with similar options.
>
> Hoping to hear from you...
>
> -Joe.
>


I parked next to a brand new hybrid Accord. The blue paint and styling
caused me to walk around it a few times. As far as looks, I liked it a lot.

mark_
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Bonehenge wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:50:39 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> There is _one_ reason to buy a hybrid at this time. It's to be able to
>> use the carpool lanes with single occupancy.

>
> Not in my state


Right, sorry about that. In California, this foolishness has occurred.
Actually, it is a good thing, as the more vehicles in the carpool lane,
the fewer vehicles in the other lanes. It makes some people mad to see a
hybrid, which gets worse freeway MPG than many non-hybrids, to be in the
carpool lane. I think that they should have based the privilege on
actual highway MPG.
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am in the market for a new car and am debating whether to get the Camry
> or the Accord. I have had Toyotas, but, no Hondas. I realize I am posting
> to the Toyota group, but, I still want to ask this question.
>
> Overall, which car is better the Camry or Accord? In southern California,
> I get the impression that an Accord is more expensive than the Camry -
> both cars with similar options.
>
> Hoping to hear from you...


In the past I have seriously considered both the Corolla and the Civic when
car buying. IMO they were equal contenders, both in reliability & pretty
close in price, too. In the end it simply came down to personal preference,
re: styling. I would guess that the same would hold true for the Camry &
the Accord. And if no real preference, then which dealership gives you the
better price.

Cathy


>
> -Joe.
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
"SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Bonehenge wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:50:39 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There is _one_ reason to buy a hybrid at this time. It's to be able to
>>> use the carpool lanes with single occupancy.

>>
>> Not in my state

>
> Right, sorry about that. In California, this foolishness has occurred.
> Actually, it is a good thing, as the more vehicles in the carpool lane,
> the fewer vehicles in the other lanes. It makes some people mad to see a
> hybrid, which gets worse freeway MPG than many non-hybrids, to be in the
> carpool lane. I think that they should have based the privilege on actual
> highway MPG.


It's my understanding the highway motorists in California are quite backed
up and move slowly.
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Prius is SLOW, SMALL, and UNSAFE.


And you think this because...

Have you evere been in a Prius, or driven one? For starters, it is much
bigger inside than one would assume; lots of space.

Cathy
>
>
> "Bill Tuthill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Overall, which car is better the Camry or Accord?

>>
>> I don't see why you'd buy either instead of a Prius.
>> At highway speed the Prius is just as quiet inside as either,
>> and quieter at low speed. It gets better gas mileage in most conditions,
>> costs about the same, and has lower maintenance costs.
>>

>
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
John <[email protected]> wrote:
> Prius is SLOW, SMALL, and UNSAFE.


Actual numbers:

Prius Camry Accord
0-60 10.6 9.6 9.0 seconds
wheelbase 106" 109" 108"
IIHS offset good good good
frontal crash

Delving into the safety issue, in Consumer Reports the
Camry and Accord are rated all-red for Gov't head-on crash test,
whereas Prius is half-red. The Accord is half-red for side impact,
while Prius and Camry are all-red. All three cars are relatively safe.
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
Cathy F., 1/5/2007,7:03:52 PM, wrote:

> > Prius is SLOW, SMALL, and UNSAFE.

>
> And you think this because...
>
> Have you evere been in a Prius, or driven one? For starters, it is
> much bigger inside than one would assume; lots of space.


They have very small trunks; that is an issue with many of us. They
have unproven weird electronics and mechanics. The average mechanic
cannot work on most of the vehicle and Toyota usually charges too much
money, not to mention the service is crappy.
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
> Joe wrote:
>> I actually considered the Prius, but, decided against it because it is a
>> smaller and I think it has a lot of newer (hybrid) technology that can be
>> expensive to fix if it ever breaks. Correct me if I am wrong.


You may be right. After reading the maintenance manual, I was surprised
at how little was required compared to my previous vehicles. However,
those of us who have purchased a Prius are basically trusting that the
price of NiMH battery packs will be reasonable in 5-10 years, or whenever
they need replacing. Existing Priuses have a good record of going
a long ways on their battery pack, which gives us hope.

SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is _one_ reason to buy a hybrid at this time. It's to be able to
> use the carpool lanes with single occupancy.


There is also a $1600 federal tax writeoff. Two reasons!

There is a potential state tax writeoff. Three reasons!

At $2.50/gal, gas savings (12,000 mi) is about $1200. Four reasons!

Some cities (San Jose CA) offer free parking at meters. Five reasons!
 
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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
"badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Cathy F., 1/5/2007,7:03:52 PM, wrote:
>
>> > Prius is SLOW, SMALL, and UNSAFE.

>>
>> And you think this because...
>>
>> Have you evere been in a Prius, or driven one? For starters, it is
>> much bigger inside than one would assume; lots of space.

>
> They have very small trunks; that is an issue with many of us.


IMO, they are plenty big inside. If you want a HUGE trunk, yes, go for
another car. If you want enough room to fit a floor lamp or a Xmas tree,
open the hatch, flip down a rear seat or two, & you're set. Not to mention
the leg room in the back seat - it's incredible. I sat in the back seat,
with the driver's seat all of the way back, & my knees didn't even *begin*
to touch the back of the driver's seat; 2 -3" of leftover room. (I drive
w/the driver's seat all of the way back, or *sometimes* one notch up - long
legs.) In the driver's & front seat passenger's positions, also plenty of
room, width-wise.

> They have unproven weird electronics and mechanics.


?? It was floated in Japan before being intro-ed here. And I haven't yet
heard any horror stories about problems with them here.

The average mechanic
> cannot work on most of the vehicle


Take it to Toyota then. Their mechanics are qualified to work on it.

and Toyota usually charges too much
> money, not to mention the service is crappy.


I always service my cars (since I've had Toyotas, that is) at my dealership.
Obviously I have had different (better) experiences than you have had w/the
service dep't.

Cathy
 
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