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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Hey Y'all,

Just wondering what, if any. mods I could do to my stock sx to increase its
power. At the moment i'm just looking for ideas, as i'm not planning to do
anything for a while, but i'm just interested in what I can do.

Any help or opinions would be appreciated.

TIA

-Michael-
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:49:08 +0000, Michael wrote:

> Hey Y'all,
>
> Just wondering what, if any. mods I could do to my stock sx to increase its
> power. At the moment i'm just looking for ideas, as i'm not planning to do
> anything for a while, but i'm just interested in what I can do.
>
> Any help or opinions would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> -Michael-


In the 'States we have the "GT" and the "GT-S". Not sure which model the
SX is.

The basic differentiations are the GT has about 160BHP and the GT-S has
about 180BHP. Which configuration do you have (high or low output)?

The GT has drum rear brakes and the GT-S has discs.

The easiest mods are to add a Cold-Air intake and a larger exhaust. This
could get you anywhere from 5-20 extra HP. You can also increase the size
of the rotors with TRD parts or aftermarket like Brembo, etc; higher temp
pads, larrger rims, wotever.

Are you going for looks or are you going for Wrap It Around A Tree?





--
Have your Virtual Pet spayed/neutered!!
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
"Hachiroku" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:49:08 +0000, Michael wrote:
>
> > Hey Y'all,
> >
> > Just wondering what, if any. mods I could do to my stock sx to increase

its
> > power. At the moment i'm just looking for ideas, as i'm not planning to

do
> > anything for a while, but i'm just interested in what I can do.
> >
> > Any help or opinions would be appreciated.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > -Michael-

>
> In the 'States we have the "GT" and the "GT-S". Not sure which model the
> SX is.
>
> The basic differentiations are the GT has about 160BHP and the GT-S has
> about 180BHP. Which configuration do you have (high or low output)?
>
> The GT has drum rear brakes and the GT-S has discs.
>
> The easiest mods are to add a Cold-Air intake and a larger exhaust. This
> could get you anywhere from 5-20 extra HP. You can also increase the size
> of the rotors with TRD parts or aftermarket like Brembo, etc; higher temp
> pads, larrger rims, wotever.
>
> Are you going for looks or are you going for Wrap It Around A Tree?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Have your Virtual Pet spayed/neutered!!
>


I think its probably closer to the GT, here in Aus we have the SX and SX-R
so i'm assuming they are alike, we also have a ZR.

Not sure about the BHP but its suposidly 100kw

And no, i'm not looking to wrap it round a tree thanks, and if i were going
for looks i'd add a body kit / atermarket bonnet w/ scoop etc

I'm just looking for a little bit more performance, nothing crazy thou,
don't want to get it to like 400kw or anything, just something simple.

-Michael-
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:55:14 +0000, Michael wrote:

>
> "Hachiroku" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:p[email protected]
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:49:08 +0000, Michael wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Y'all,
>> >
>> > Just wondering what, if any. mods I could do to my stock sx to increase

> its
>> > power. At the moment i'm just looking for ideas, as i'm not planning to

> do
>> > anything for a while, but i'm just interested in what I can do.
>> >
>> > Any help or opinions would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > TIA
>> >
>> > -Michael-

>>
>> In the 'States we have the "GT" and the "GT-S". Not sure which model the
>> SX is.
>>
>> The basic differentiations are the GT has about 160BHP and the GT-S has
>> about 180BHP. Which configuration do you have (high or low output)?
>>
>> The GT has drum rear brakes and the GT-S has discs.
>>
>> The easiest mods are to add a Cold-Air intake and a larger exhaust. This
>> could get you anywhere from 5-20 extra HP. You can also increase the size
>> of the rotors with TRD parts or aftermarket like Brembo, etc; higher temp
>> pads, larrger rims, wotever.
>>
>> Are you going for looks or are you going for Wrap It Around A Tree?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Have your Virtual Pet spayed/neutered!!
>>

>
> I think its probably closer to the GT, here in Aus we have the SX and SX-R
> so i'm assuming they are alike, we also have a ZR.
>
> Not sure about the BHP but its suposidly 100kw
>
> And no, i'm not looking to wrap it round a tree thanks, and if i were going
> for looks i'd add a body kit / atermarket bonnet w/ scoop etc
>
> I'm just looking for a little bit more performance, nothing crazy thou,
> don't want to get it to like 400kw or anything, just something simple.
>
> -Michael-


LOL! I can't blame you for not wanting to wrap it around a tree!!

Like I said the easiest things are the C-A Intake and the exhaust. You can
get some inexpensive stuff, but I'd go moderately priced at least. You
kind of do get what you pay for. If you want to get a few more, get a mild
turbo charger; bear in mind, though that some engines do not take kindly
to turbocharging.

You can also chip it; that is, adding a performance chip. these are
generally good for anywhere from 15-100 or more HP (I've forgotten the
conversion from HP to kW...). I'd go pretty mild if you want the car to
last.

You can also, like I suggested, do the brakes (you may want to after the
other add-ons) and get a suspension kit. I would advise against going to
rear discs; it can be a pain unless they use the same set-up on all
models; if they did then you can get the parts from a wreckers'. You'll
need the rear discs, calipers and pads; I'd get the discs and the pads
from a retailer and try to find the calipers at the wreckers; you may also
need the booster and you will definitely ned the proportioning valve,
since these are different from drums to discs. Get these at the wreckers
as well.

All in all we're up to about $1500-200USD; the Intake, exhaust, brakes,
and chip. And that's if you do the work yourself.

Good luck. Report back what you do. It'll be interesting!

And get going! Summer's almost half over! (or, winter, if you're here...;)

--
Have your Virtual Pet spayed/neutered!!
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
"Hachiroku" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:55:14 +0000, Michael wrote:
>
> >
> > "Hachiroku" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:p[email protected]
> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:49:08 +0000, Michael wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hey Y'all,
> >> >
> >> > Just wondering what, if any. mods I could do to my stock sx to

increase
> > its
> >> > power. At the moment i'm just looking for ideas, as i'm not planning

to
> > do
> >> > anything for a while, but i'm just interested in what I can do.
> >> >
> >> > Any help or opinions would be appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > TIA
> >> >
> >> > -Michael-
> >>
> >> In the 'States we have the "GT" and the "GT-S". Not sure which model

the
> >> SX is.
> >>
> >> The basic differentiations are the GT has about 160BHP and the GT-S has
> >> about 180BHP. Which configuration do you have (high or low output)?
> >>
> >> The GT has drum rear brakes and the GT-S has discs.
> >>
> >> The easiest mods are to add a Cold-Air intake and a larger exhaust.

This
> >> could get you anywhere from 5-20 extra HP. You can also increase the

size
> >> of the rotors with TRD parts or aftermarket like Brembo, etc; higher

temp
> >> pads, larrger rims, wotever.
> >>
> >> Are you going for looks or are you going for Wrap It Around A Tree?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Have your Virtual Pet spayed/neutered!!
> >>

> >
> > I think its probably closer to the GT, here in Aus we have the SX and

SX-R
> > so i'm assuming they are alike, we also have a ZR.
> >
> > Not sure about the BHP but its suposidly 100kw
> >
> > And no, i'm not looking to wrap it round a tree thanks, and if i were

going
> > for looks i'd add a body kit / atermarket bonnet w/ scoop etc
> >
> > I'm just looking for a little bit more performance, nothing crazy thou,
> > don't want to get it to like 400kw or anything, just something simple.
> >
> > -Michael-

>
> LOL! I can't blame you for not wanting to wrap it around a tree!!
>
> Like I said the easiest things are the C-A Intake and the exhaust. You can
> get some inexpensive stuff, but I'd go moderately priced at least. You
> kind of do get what you pay for. If you want to get a few more, get a mild
> turbo charger; bear in mind, though that some engines do not take kindly
> to turbocharging.
>
> You can also chip it; that is, adding a performance chip. these are
> generally good for anywhere from 15-100 or more HP (I've forgotten the
> conversion from HP to kW...). I'd go pretty mild if you want the car to
> last.
>
> You can also, like I suggested, do the brakes (you may want to after the
> other add-ons) and get a suspension kit. I would advise against going to
> rear discs; it can be a pain unless they use the same set-up on all
> models; if they did then you can get the parts from a wreckers'. You'll
> need the rear discs, calipers and pads; I'd get the discs and the pads
> from a retailer and try to find the calipers at the wreckers; you may also
> need the booster and you will definitely ned the proportioning valve,
> since these are different from drums to discs. Get these at the wreckers
> as well.
>
> All in all we're up to about $1500-200USD; the Intake, exhaust, brakes,
> and chip. And that's if you do the work yourself.
>
> Good luck. Report back what you do. It'll be interesting!
>
> And get going! Summer's almost half over! (or, winter, if you're here...;)
>
> --
> Have your Virtual Pet spayed/neutered!!
>


Hahhahah,

Just a question about the chip, i recenlty had the ecu replaced to fix a
prob with the alarm, if i get a new chip, does that mean that the newish ecu
i got, gets replaced?

I'd love to turbo it, but i don't think i can just bolt one on, there is
alot of work to be done that goes with that, but the cold air and exhaust
sound ok, just don't want a loud exhaust as i often arived home late at nite
and don't want to wake the rest of the street.

And yeh, i'd like the car to last, its great to drive, when it was being
serviced (160,000km) i drove around the commadore, and boy was that weird.

Currently it has good brakes, i had to stop going about 70km/h and it did it
quite fast without locking, and it apparently comes stock with "sports"
suspention

Another option that was sujested to me, was to drop a celica gt-4 motor +
gearbox and transmission (awd) in mine, is that a viable option, or just
crazy talk?

-Michael-
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Hachiroku" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:p[email protected]
> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:55:14 +0000, Michael wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Hachiroku" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:p[email protected]
> > >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:49:08 +0000, Michael wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hey Y'all,
> > >> >
> > >> > Just wondering what, if any. mods I could do to my stock sx to

> increase
> > > its
> > >> > power. At the moment i'm just looking for ideas, as i'm not

planning
> to
> > > do
> > >> > anything for a while, but i'm just interested in what I can do.
> > >> >
> > >> > Any help or opinions would be appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > TIA
> > >> >
> > >> > -Michael-
> > >>
> > >> In the 'States we have the "GT" and the "GT-S". Not sure which model

> the
> > >> SX is.
> > >>
> > >> The basic differentiations are the GT has about 160BHP and the GT-S

has
> > >> about 180BHP. Which configuration do you have (high or low output)?
> > >>
> > >> The GT has drum rear brakes and the GT-S has discs.
> > >>
> > >> The easiest mods are to add a Cold-Air intake and a larger exhaust.

> This
> > >> could get you anywhere from 5-20 extra HP. You can also increase the

> size
> > >> of the rotors with TRD parts or aftermarket like Brembo, etc; higher

> temp
> > >> pads, larrger rims, wotever.
> > >>
> > >> Are you going for looks or are you going for Wrap It Around A Tree?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Have your Virtual Pet spayed/neutered!!
> > >>
> > >
> > > I think its probably closer to the GT, here in Aus we have the SX and

> SX-R
> > > so i'm assuming they are alike, we also have a ZR.
> > >
> > > Not sure about the BHP but its suposidly 100kw
> > >
> > > And no, i'm not looking to wrap it round a tree thanks, and if i were

> going
> > > for looks i'd add a body kit / atermarket bonnet w/ scoop etc
> > >
> > > I'm just looking for a little bit more performance, nothing crazy

thou,
> > > don't want to get it to like 400kw or anything, just something simple.
> > >
> > > -Michael-

> >
> > LOL! I can't blame you for not wanting to wrap it around a tree!!
> >
> > Like I said the easiest things are the C-A Intake and the exhaust. You

can
> > get some inexpensive stuff, but I'd go moderately priced at least. You
> > kind of do get what you pay for. If you want to get a few more, get a

mild
> > turbo charger; bear in mind, though that some engines do not take kindly
> > to turbocharging.
> >
> > You can also chip it; that is, adding a performance chip. these are
> > generally good for anywhere from 15-100 or more HP (I've forgotten the
> > conversion from HP to kW...). I'd go pretty mild if you want the car to
> > last.
> >
> > You can also, like I suggested, do the brakes (you may want to after the
> > other add-ons) and get a suspension kit. I would advise against going to
> > rear discs; it can be a pain unless they use the same set-up on all
> > models; if they did then you can get the parts from a wreckers'. You'll
> > need the rear discs, calipers and pads; I'd get the discs and the pads
> > from a retailer and try to find the calipers at the wreckers; you may

also
> > need the booster and you will definitely ned the proportioning valve,
> > since these are different from drums to discs. Get these at the wreckers
> > as well.
> >
> > All in all we're up to about $1500-200USD; the Intake, exhaust, brakes,
> > and chip. And that's if you do the work yourself.
> >
> > Good luck. Report back what you do. It'll be interesting!
> >
> > And get going! Summer's almost half over! (or, winter, if you're

here...;)
> >
> > --
> > Have your Virtual Pet spayed/neutered!!
> >

>
> Hahhahah,
>
> Just a question about the chip, i recenlty had the ecu replaced to fix a
> prob with the alarm, if i get a new chip, does that mean that the newish

ecu
> i got, gets replaced?
>
> I'd love to turbo it, but i don't think i can just bolt one on, there is
> alot of work to be done that goes with that, but the cold air and exhaust
> sound ok, just don't want a loud exhaust as i often arived home late at

nite
> and don't want to wake the rest of the street.
>
> And yeh, i'd like the car to last, its great to drive, when it was being
> serviced (160,000km) i drove around the commadore, and boy was that weird.
>
> Currently it has good brakes, i had to stop going about 70km/h and it did

it
> quite fast without locking, and it apparently comes stock with "sports"
> suspention
>
> Another option that was sujested to me, was to drop a celica gt-4 motor +
> gearbox and transmission (awd) in mine, is that a viable option, or just
> crazy talk?
>
> -Michael-
>


A year or model would be helpful for model specific tuning tips but to give
you and idea, my dad has a 86 sx the only mods to it are a leaned off
airflow meter, done by adjusting the spring tension. A decent set of custom
made spark plug leads, genie extractors and a motor and gearbox from a
Japanese domestic market carona of around the same age(only got because it
cracked the head and it was only a couple of hundred more than a new head,
plus the gear box was badly work from a previous owner using the wrong oil
in it). At the moment he has traction problems with the motor and can smoke
the tyres easily away from the lights. it hasn't been on a dyno yet so I
cant give you any power figures but it can easily beat most cars away from
lights except for the big v8's and big turbo sports cars(little silvia's and
wrx's get eaten up and chewed out most of the time). as it is this think is
a handful in the wet if you aren't careful. it also gets 7.5L/100Km on the
highway And around 9L/100Km in the city even though it sits at 3500RPM on
the highway in top gear.

You cant actually get chips for Toyota ecu's you get interceptor boxes which
trick the factory ecu. if you want to go down this road get a unichip
interceptor and get it tuned for your car.

As for the gt4 motor and gearbox, they just wont bolt straight in. you will
need a MR2 turbo gearbox to handle the power or you will be replacing
gearbox's often, and this will need to modified for a different shifter
arrangement. I wouldn't expect to get much change out of 5-10 thousand
dollars depending on how much work you do yourself. a car with this setup
should be fast in the dry but in the wet defiantly try to kill you unless
you treat it with respect or get traction control fitted.

If you have a late model car get a head of a MR2 and put on the factory
block a set of extractors for a 86 the should fit the car, a K&N filter with
a decent cold air intake and a unichip fitted and tuned is the best budget
increase. you should be able to do this for around 2000 dollars and will
give you around another 50-60hp and most likely better fuel economy.

Nick
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
"Nicholas Bourne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> >
> > "Hachiroku" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:p[email protected]
> > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:55:14 +0000, Michael wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Hachiroku" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:p[email protected]
> > > >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:49:08 +0000, Michael wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hey Y'all,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Just wondering what, if any. mods I could do to my stock sx to

> > increase
> > > > its
> > > >> > power. At the moment i'm just looking for ideas, as i'm not

> planning
> > to
> > > > do
> > > >> > anything for a while, but i'm just interested in what I can do.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Any help or opinions would be appreciated.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > TIA
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -Michael-
> > > >>
> > > >> In the 'States we have the "GT" and the "GT-S". Not sure which

model
> > the
> > > >> SX is.
> > > >>
> > > >> The basic differentiations are the GT has about 160BHP and the GT-S

> has
> > > >> about 180BHP. Which configuration do you have (high or low output)?
> > > >>
> > > >> The GT has drum rear brakes and the GT-S has discs.
> > > >>
> > > >> The easiest mods are to add a Cold-Air intake and a larger exhaust.

> > This
> > > >> could get you anywhere from 5-20 extra HP. You can also increase

the
> > size
> > > >> of the rotors with TRD parts or aftermarket like Brembo, etc;

higher
> > temp
> > > >> pads, larrger rims, wotever.
> > > >>
> > > >> Are you going for looks or are you going for Wrap It Around A Tree?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Have your Virtual Pet spayed/neutered!!
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I think its probably closer to the GT, here in Aus we have the SX

and
> > SX-R
> > > > so i'm assuming they are alike, we also have a ZR.
> > > >
> > > > Not sure about the BHP but its suposidly 100kw
> > > >
> > > > And no, i'm not looking to wrap it round a tree thanks, and if i

were
> > going
> > > > for looks i'd add a body kit / atermarket bonnet w/ scoop etc
> > > >
> > > > I'm just looking for a little bit more performance, nothing crazy

> thou,
> > > > don't want to get it to like 400kw or anything, just something

simple.
> > > >
> > > > -Michael-
> > >
> > > LOL! I can't blame you for not wanting to wrap it around a tree!!
> > >
> > > Like I said the easiest things are the C-A Intake and the exhaust. You

> can
> > > get some inexpensive stuff, but I'd go moderately priced at least. You
> > > kind of do get what you pay for. If you want to get a few more, get a

> mild
> > > turbo charger; bear in mind, though that some engines do not take

kindly
> > > to turbocharging.
> > >
> > > You can also chip it; that is, adding a performance chip. these are
> > > generally good for anywhere from 15-100 or more HP (I've forgotten the
> > > conversion from HP to kW...). I'd go pretty mild if you want the car

to
> > > last.
> > >
> > > You can also, like I suggested, do the brakes (you may want to after

the
> > > other add-ons) and get a suspension kit. I would advise against going

to
> > > rear discs; it can be a pain unless they use the same set-up on all
> > > models; if they did then you can get the parts from a wreckers'.

You'll
> > > need the rear discs, calipers and pads; I'd get the discs and the pads
> > > from a retailer and try to find the calipers at the wreckers; you may

> also
> > > need the booster and you will definitely ned the proportioning valve,
> > > since these are different from drums to discs. Get these at the

wreckers
> > > as well.
> > >
> > > All in all we're up to about $1500-200USD; the Intake, exhaust,

brakes,
> > > and chip. And that's if you do the work yourself.
> > >
> > > Good luck. Report back what you do. It'll be interesting!
> > >
> > > And get going! Summer's almost half over! (or, winter, if you're

> here...;)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Have your Virtual Pet spayed/neutered!!
> > >

> >
> > Hahhahah,
> >
> > Just a question about the chip, i recenlty had the ecu replaced to fix a
> > prob with the alarm, if i get a new chip, does that mean that the newish

> ecu
> > i got, gets replaced?
> >
> > I'd love to turbo it, but i don't think i can just bolt one on, there is
> > alot of work to be done that goes with that, but the cold air and

exhaust
> > sound ok, just don't want a loud exhaust as i often arived home late at

> nite
> > and don't want to wake the rest of the street.
> >
> > And yeh, i'd like the car to last, its great to drive, when it was being
> > serviced (160,000km) i drove around the commadore, and boy was that

weird.
> >
> > Currently it has good brakes, i had to stop going about 70km/h and it

did
> it
> > quite fast without locking, and it apparently comes stock with "sports"
> > suspention
> >
> > Another option that was sujested to me, was to drop a celica gt-4 motor

+
> > gearbox and transmission (awd) in mine, is that a viable option, or just
> > crazy talk?
> >
> > -Michael-
> >

>
> A year or model would be helpful for model specific tuning tips but to

give
> you and idea, my dad has a 86 sx the only mods to it are a leaned off
> airflow meter, done by adjusting the spring tension. A decent set of

custom
> made spark plug leads, genie extractors and a motor and gearbox from a
> Japanese domestic market carona of around the same age(only got because it
> cracked the head and it was only a couple of hundred more than a new head,
> plus the gear box was badly work from a previous owner using the wrong oil
> in it). At the moment he has traction problems with the motor and can

smoke
> the tyres easily away from the lights. it hasn't been on a dyno yet so I
> cant give you any power figures but it can easily beat most cars away from
> lights except for the big v8's and big turbo sports cars(little silvia's

and
> wrx's get eaten up and chewed out most of the time). as it is this think

is
> a handful in the wet if you aren't careful. it also gets 7.5L/100Km on the
> highway And around 9L/100Km in the city even though it sits at 3500RPM on
> the highway in top gear.
>
> You cant actually get chips for Toyota ecu's you get interceptor boxes

which
> trick the factory ecu. if you want to go down this road get a unichip
> interceptor and get it tuned for your car.
>
> As for the gt4 motor and gearbox, they just wont bolt straight in. you

will
> need a MR2 turbo gearbox to handle the power or you will be replacing
> gearbox's often, and this will need to modified for a different shifter
> arrangement. I wouldn't expect to get much change out of 5-10 thousand
> dollars depending on how much work you do yourself. a car with this setup
> should be fast in the dry but in the wet defiantly try to kill you unless
> you treat it with respect or get traction control fitted.
>
> If you have a late model car get a head of a MR2 and put on the factory
> block a set of extractors for a 86 the should fit the car, a K&N filter

with
> a decent cold air intake and a unichip fitted and tuned is the best budget
> increase. you should be able to do this for around 2000 dollars and will
> give you around another 50-60hp and most likely better fuel economy.
>
> Nick
>
>


Its a 1998,

So yer, think i'll go with the air filter, mates going out to get one for
his car on fri, so i'll go out with him, and the cold air intake. Might skip
the chip and engine swap until later, once i've gotten the hang of the new
clutch i got put in yesterday, which is why it was a little weak in power,
clutch was constantly slipping. Better fuel economy sounds good, i normally
get 400k out of a tank if i can increase that i'll be happy.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions, i'll let you know how it goes.

-Michael-
 
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