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May be time for replacing valve seals on my 86 22r engine. I have read pro's and cons of doing this with the head on and off the engine. Can someone tell me the costs involved in doing this diy (either on or off engine, including parts and labor) vs cost of paying someone/shop? I need real life experience replies, thks.
 

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To get the rockers off you have to remove the head bolts. At that point, you might as well remove the head and get a valve job. Most likely, it is not just a seal issue. Getting the head reworked is not that expensive. The seals come in the head gasket set. Valve grind and guides is all you really need machining wise. It's also a great opportunity to get the head cleaned so all that carbon/oil crud gets out of the EGR passages. An alternate route is to price a rebuilt head. They are on Ebay all day long. I wouldn't pay more to get yours reworked than what you could get another head for. BTW: I had 300K miles on my original head and valve seals before I rebuilt the motor. I had the head done just for completeness. My machine shop guy said all he did was guides and seals. A light grind on the seats and she was ready to rock. I think it came out to like a buck and a half all together.
 

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Go with what0 Rh1n0_86OneTon said. It really isn't much $$ to get the head re-worked and you'll be happy with the results.
 

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May be time for replacing valve seals on my 86 22r engine. I have read pro's and cons of doing this with the head on and off the engine. Can someone tell me the costs involved in doing this diy (either on or off engine, including parts and labor) vs cost of paying someone/shop? I need real life experience replies, thks.
I had an EGR fiasco recently and decided it was time to pull the head and it was well worth it. I took it to a local shop and they replaced 5 valves(4 exhaust + 1 intake), new seals and drilled out my egr port for $210. The head looked brand new and it was nice to have it serviced while I had a chance to scrape a 1/16 of carbon from my cylinder tops. All in all with a felpro top end gasket kit (Head, exhuast, intake and the like) + the 2 air tube gaskets from the dealer (If somebody else makes them then who?) I have about $310.00 into it with very little stress. Of course the FSM is a must.

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just the valve seals would be the cost of a head gasket plus another hour labor. most shops charge 10 hours for a head gasket job here. if you are gonna have the top end off like was suggested if you can swing it do a valve job and if you have not yet replace the timing chain.
 
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