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· Christianjrab
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CVT is the best option on any vehicle right now unless you can afford a 9 or 11 speed in a sports car. The Toyota CVT is bulletproof so far and yields high percentage performance to benefit ratios. Acceleration feels slightly more spirited to me compared to the extremely dated 4 speed auto, depending on how you manage sport mode or the throttle. The 4 speed is a solid 15 or more years old and shouldn't even exist today in my opinion, the 5 speed and CVT are all that's necessary to offer.
 

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CVT is the best option on any vehicle right now unless you can afford a 9 or 11 speed in a sports car. The Toyota CVT is bulletproof so far and yields high percentage performance to benefit ratios. Acceleration feels slightly more spirited to me compared to the extremely dated 4 speed auto, depending on how you manage sport mode or the throttle. The 4 speed is a solid 15 or more years old and shouldn't even exist today in my opinion, the 5 speed and CVT are all that's necessary to offer.


CVT is good for economy vehicles. It would not be ideal in a sports car or a 4x4.
 

· Christianjrab
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CVT is good for economy vehicles. It would not be ideal in a sports car or a 4x4.
Well, I should've said in this segment. Obvious Mack isn't gonna put in CVTs yet, although the some industrial machinery is starting to take on the CVT. Also, sports cars are rapidly nearing CVT land, it's a much better performance option than anything else. Even manual mode CVTs will perform better and require less skill and maintenance to operate.

Any family sedan, SUV, Eco car, hybrid, mini van etc is already best off with a CVT. Even 4wd options are best with a CVT. If we are talking sports enthusiast, we'll move along, lol. Practically speaking is the point I'm making.
 

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Well, I should've said in this segment. Obvious Mack isn't gonna put in CVTs yet, although the some industrial machinery is starting to take on the CVT. Also, sports cars are rapidly nearing CVT land, it's a much better performance option than anything else. Even manual mode CVTs will perform better and require less skill and maintenance to operate.



Any family sedan, SUV, Eco car, hybrid, mini van etc is already best off with a CVT. Even 4wd options are best with a CVT. If we are talking sports enthusiast, we'll move along, lol. Practically speaking is the point I'm making.


For economy vehicles, we're agreed, everything else is just, like, your opinion.
 

· Christianjrab
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For economy vehicles, we're agreed, everything else is just, like, your opinion.
Actually, it's the popular consensus... It's the wave of the future, CVT is coming to every class it's just a matter of time. Take some time to read about it, already they're taking over market shares in SUV, mini van, sedan, and casual sports cars manufacturing.

Like I said, if we are talking preferences, of course everyone will differ. The fact is - CVTs are becoming the primary in every consumer vehicle segment, and slowly industrial also.
 

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Actually, it's the popular consensus... It's the wave of the future, CVT is coming to every class it's just a matter of time. Take some time to read about it, already they're taking over market shares in SUV, mini van, sedan, and casual sports cars manufacturing.



Like I said, if we are talking preferences, of course everyone will differ. The fact is - CVTs are becoming the primary in every consumer vehicle segment, and slowly industrial also.


As far as i know, there is not a single rear wheel drive vehicle that uses cvt. There might be, but it's pretty rare.
Sports cars drive their rear wheels, luxury vehicles drive the rear wheels and SUVs need to maintain ratios for the transfer cases and all the other drivetrain equipment. Not to be confused with AWD because that is a front wheel drive vehicle with a 85% bias.
 

· Christianjrab
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As far as i know, there is not a single rear wheel drive vehicle that uses cvt. There might be, but it's pretty rare.
Sports cars drive their rear wheels, luxury vehicles drive the rear wheels and SUVs need to maintain ratios for the transfer cases and all the other drivetrain equipment. Not to be confused with AWD because that is a front wheel drive vehicle with a 85% bias.
Im afraid I'm at work and can't really help as much as I'd like, but check this link out, as you can see, almost every field has been touched this year alone with a blessing of a CVT.

Also regarding 4wd options, and rear wheel drive, check out the Nissan lineup, they seem to have pioneered American sales with CVT transmissions, although the not without issues, and continue to use them today.

Also the Subaru XV which I like a lot personally, has a 4wd CVT.
 

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Im afraid I'm at work and can't really help as much as I'd like, but check this link out, as you can see, almost every field has been touched this year alone with a blessing of a CVT.



Also regarding 4wd options, and rear wheel drive, check out the Nissan lineup, they seem to have pioneered American sales with CVT transmissions, although the not without issues, and continue to use them today.



Also the Subaru XV which I like a lot personally, has a 4wd CVT.


When you get off work, look up rear wheel drive cvt. Nissan 4x4 vehicles all use traditional transmissions.
 

· Christianjrab
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When you get off work, look up rear wheel drive cvt. Nissan 4x4 vehicles all use traditional transmissions.
A very quick google search found that The juke, pathfinder, and x Trail all have a full 4x4 with CVT.

Even if badged as AWD, a lot of them have a option for 2wd or 4wd, so it's not the classic full time all wheel drive we are used to. At any rate, it does exist and is in lineups of mass produced popular consumer segment vehicles.

As for the sports and RWD cars, they aren't popular in mass production yet as I said, it's still coming on. There are a few concept models out that you can read about and watch online. The point is they are becoming the norm! Also you might be interested in the semis they are testing with CVTs. Pretty cool stuff.
 

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A very quick google search found that The juke, pathfinder, and x Trail all have a full 4x4 with CVT.



Even if badged as AWD, a lot of them have a option for 2wd or 4wd, so it's not the classic full time all wheel drive we are used to. At any rate, it does exist and is in lineups of mass produced popular consumer segment vehicles.



As for the sports and RWD cars, they aren't popular in mass production yet as I said, it's still coming on. There are a few concept models out that you can read about and watch online. The point is they are becoming the norm! Also you might be interested in the semis they are testing with CVTs. Pretty cool stuff.


Seriously, the juke? 4x4 is with a transfer case ie low range. Those cars are awd, and pretty terrible. I'll remember this conversation when i see a cvt corvette.
 

· Christianjrab
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Lol, idk what to tell you man. Won't be long, Jatco recently released a fairly refined RWD CVT that I believe Nissan is eyeballing, and others will follow as well as competing manufacturers making their own similar transmissions.
 

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Read my edit ^
Toyota CVT transmission already proven its reliablility.
But to only downside of CVT its that is ther not designs with a Towing capacity you can't pull a trailer. In fact, Toyota does not recommend towing a trailer with your Corolla. CVT, Toyota limited the amount of oil pressure that keeps the steel belt in the CVT under tension to eliminate as much parasitic drag as possible, so towing may cause the belt to slip!!!
 

· Christianjrab
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Where did that come from though? We are talking about RWD or 4x4 CVT setups, no one mentioned towing in a Toyota...

There are CVT's built for towing and load carrying however, as mentioned, there are some testing projects working on Semi trucks for that very purpose.
 

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Where did that come from though? We are talking about RWD or 4x4 CVT setups, no one mentioned towing in a Toyota...



There are CVT's built for towing and load carrying however, as mentioned, there are some testing projects working on Semi trucks for that very purpose.


I think we're both trying to help you separate fact from fiction . According to Wikipedia ie was patented over a century ago. CVT transmissions Are getting used more, but like front wheel drive vehicles in appliance type vehicles.
 
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