[toyota200x]

I am wondering if these rims off a 1999 Mazda Millenia will work on my 2001 Camry 4cyl.
My stock tire size is 205/65-15.
Mazda size is 215/55 16.
Is this going to make any difference on my odometer or speedometer?

Will the offset of these rims work on mine. I compared 2 aftermarket wheel on tire rack. One for the Mazda and one for a Solara. Mazda and Solara have the same bolt pattern I am pretty sure (5x114). Offset for the Mazda was 48mm and 40mm for the Solara.

Please help me out. Is there anything I should be worred about when buying used alloy rims and tires?

 

[Typrus]

Look for cracks and dents. Most scuffs can be polished out, and curb-rash can be leveled out if you so desire.

So if I remember offset correctly, your rims will be pushed 8mm further to the outside. Unless we're talking negatives, in which case thats 8mm closer.
If 8mm further out, you'll get a more stable footprint, but might hit rubbing.
Further in might also cause rubbing. a little less stable footprint.
Either direction will result in different wear on the bearings. Factory offset and alignment results in the load right on the middle of the bearing. A shift in camber or offset will change the load point. That may or may not cause problems. Dunno on the Camry.

 

[eddie926]

The bigger the offset, the more the wheel is being pushed inward toward your suspension. So going from 40mm to 48mm, you're moving 8mm closer to the suspension.

The most common offset recommended for Gen3 and Gen4s that I've seen is 40mm, but there's a window there. The stock 15s on my Gen3 XLE are 45mm offset.

You can plug in different wheel/tire sizes and offsets using this calculator and it will give you an idea of what to expect as far as moving you closer in toward the suspension, farther out toward the fenders, etc., and what effect you'll see with your speedometer accuracy.

http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp

 

[toyota200x]

Is there anything else I have to look at when buying wheels besides : offset, bolt pattern, and tire size?

 

[eddie926]

That's about it. Well, wheel size of course

 

[toyota200x]

Someone told me this....

A few possible problems that I can see...

The Mazda wheels will not be hubcentric due to a larger centerbore. I have seen broken lugbolts from wheel not being hubcentric. I personally have had vibration issues from aftermarket wheels without the rings, with the vibration issues gone after using them. You might be able to find hubcentric rings though. Gorilla might be one brand to look at.

The Mazda wheels might require a special lugnut. Might be costly to buy them, unless you get them with the wheels and tires.

Are these points things to worry/think about? I would really like to buy these wheels and tires but I am worried that there will be some little catch that will give me problems and not let me use them.

 

[eddie926]

Most any aftermarket wheel you buy will require a hub centric ring. Toyota wheels have a 60.1mm hub. The stock wheels have a center bore that fits that. Most aftermarket wheels will have a center bore that is larger than that. So, you buy hub centric rings that are sized to mate the aftermarket wheel to the smaller hub. In order to buy the correct rings, you have to know the size of the hub (60.1mm) and the size of the center bore on the new wheel.

Can't tell you about the wheels requiring a particular lug nut, but the lugs on your Camry wheel will require a particular thread, i.e. you may not be able to use Mazda lug nuts on your Camry lugs.

Are you getting a really good deal on these Mazda wheels or you just really love them? If you're not getting a great deal, you may be able to get some brand new ones with all the necessary hardware AND a guarantee from some place like TireRack for a similar price.

You said they were 16". Have you seen these on eBay? Their 16" BBS especially made for the Camry. Correct bore and all necessary hardware....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-BB...015QQitemZ250212080970QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

 

[toyota200x]

I think the Mazda has a 67.1 center bore. Could I easily find adapter to let it work on my Solara?

I could get these wheels in excellent condition for $300 with pretty much new Bridgestone tires on them. They are 1hr drive away from me.

 

[toyota200x]

Ebay Link

I have found these hub centric rings that will work. "clarkgrizwald " on the boards here have done a similar switch and used those rings. Here
He used Mazda CX-7 wheels.

Does anyone know if Mazda's have different lugs? I guess that is the only thing that is holding me back right now.

 

[95PimpingCamry]

Ebay Link

I have found these hub centric rings that will work. "clarkgrizwald " on the boards here have done a similar switch and used those rings. Here
He used Mazda CX-7 wheels.

Does anyone know if Mazda's have different lugs? I guess that is the only thing that is holding me back right now.

Dude those rings are WAY overpriced, they want $21.50 shipped. Just go to a local speed shop and get some. I got mine for $10, just walked in said what size I wanted and got them.

 

[toyota200x]

Dude those rings are WAY overpriced, they want $21.50 shipped. Just go to a local speed shop and get some. I got mine for $10, just walked in said what size I wanted and got them.

Ya think they would have the odd sizing of 67.1 to 60.1? Most after market wheels are 73mm center bore so it would to 73 converted 60.1

Thanks for the help.

 

[95PimpingCamry]

^ They would probably be able to get it. Since I have Hyundai Tiburon wheels I too needed an odd size, so they just ordered them and I had them the next day.

 

[toyota200x]

^ They would probably be able to get it. Since I have Hyundai Tiburon wheels I too needed an odd size, so they just ordered them and I had them the next day.

1. Did you have to get different wheel lug bolts?

2. What shape lug bolts are on a Camry/solara? See diagram

3. Would NAPA or a similar auto part store have hub centric rings and wheel lug bolts?

4. Can we see pics of the Tiburon wheels on your camry. Did they bolt right up once you got your rings? Any problems?

5. How are wheel lug bolts installed?

 

[95PimpingCamry]

1. Did you have to get different wheel lug bolts?

2. What shape lug bolts are on a Camry/solara? See diagram

3. Would NAPA or a similar auto part store have hub centric rings and wheel lug bolts?

4. Can we see pics of the Tiburon wheels on your camry. Did they bolt right up once you got your rings? Any problems?

5. How are wheel lug bolts installed?

1. No. Toyotas don't use lug bolts, they use lug nuts. My Camry (with stock steelies) came with conical seat lug nuts, and that is what the Tiburon wheels used too. Different wheels may require different seats, but they will still be nuts, not bolts.

2. conical / tapered for stock steelies, flat for stock alloys. Both have a thread pitch of 12X1.5mm

3. NAPA, Advance, PepBoys, etc. should have the lug nuts. I don't think any of them have hub centric rings. I got my centric rings from a local speed shop called American Speed Center.

4. These wheels fortunately bolted right up with no problems or modifications. Hub centric rings shouldn't affect how wheels bolt up either. Here is the pic as requested:

5. Once again Toyotas don't use lug bolts, they use lug nuts. Installation is simple: step 1 take off old lug nut, step 2 put new lug nut on.

 

[toyota200x]

Maybe I am not understanding the whole Lug NUT vs. Lug BOLT. A lug bolt would not be press fit into the hub? I thought that is what they were used for and then the lug nut would get attached to it. So on a toyota the Cone, Ball, or Flat seat type would be on the lug nut?

Another Question. If my stock wheels are 205/65-15 and I put 215/55-16 on my car. Will this wider tire width cause any problems with a 48mm offset vs a 40mm? I am also worried about the difference in the rotation. Does that matter or is it pretty small in the long run? I'm a little worried.
Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
205/65-15 5.2in 12.7in 25.5in 80.1in 791 0.0%
215/55-16 4.7in 12.7in 25.3in 79.5in 797 -0.7%

Thanks for all your help. I am learning a lot.