[markpc]

I have a 99 (6th gen) celica 7afe. I usually just buy the cheapest family hatch to last a year then scrap it then move on to the next, no more. I have the 1.8 which suits me fine not too slow economic and looks fantastic. I am shocked by the lack of grip on the front wheels when i pull away or even give it too much throttle in the middle of 1st and sometimes 2nd, when cornering at moderate speeds the undesteer is terrible. Is this a base model flaw? or do i have a bad car (the car is in mint cond well loved and has been serviced without any care of cost). Any info will be very helpful thanx

 

[A Diddy]

tires ok?

 

[spy801]

Tyres my friend, tyres. tyres aren't tyres, one grips and the other just rolls. more you pay better quality you get. i just had a set of Michelin Pilots in my car, phenomenal grip but cost me $1000 AUS, 600 euros. yesterday i bought a set of Michelin Primacy, grip and handling with comfort, I'll se how they go.

 

[markpc]

Tyres my friend, tyres. tyres aren't tyres, one grips and the other just rolls. more you pay better quality you get. i just had a set of Michelin Pilots in my car, phenomenal grip but cost me $1000 AUS, 600 euros. yesterday i bought a set of Michelin Primacy, grip and handling with comfort, I'll se how they go.

I have a pair of pilots on the front with 5mm left. I have read in a few places that the base prelude is good but it needs a LSD do you think the base celica would be the same?

 

[A Diddy]

Tyres my friend, tyres. tyres aren't tyres, one grips and the other just rolls. more you pay better quality you get. i just had a set of Michelin Pilots in my car, phenomenal grip but cost me $1000 AUS, 600 euros. yesterday i bought a set of Michelin Primacy, grip and handling with comfort, I'll se how they go.

In north america my friend they are called tires. Recongnize where people are from before you correct the spelling? The is no reason for that car to have poor grip unless u have hercules tIres on it...Or maybe if u have a 3sgte engine in there with only fwd.

 

[spy801]

In north america my friend they are called tires. Recongnize where people are from before you correct the spelling? The is no reason for that car to have poor grip unless u have hercules tIres on it...Or maybe if u have a 3sgte engine in there with only fwd.

I know all about spelling, I teach people to use Microsoft Office and I can tell you that American spelling of words such as COLOR, TIRES, RECOGNIZE is a frustrating experience for some when using Word spell checker. We do write Queen's English here Downunder. Anyway, back to tyres (tires), I am a great believer of making the best out of what you have. Celica is a great handling car and with a set of good tyres it is even better. do not mix different tyres in the front and back, you are greating a bad balance. Michelin pilots are an exceptionally sticky tyre and a regular tyre can not match it. for my frind in the UK, I have heard that ContiSports is even better. (Continental tyre from Germany). one dude got a set of them in his 600hp Commodore, no wheelspin.
LSD would help but is costly. Front wheel drive can also be a bit of a problem. Good gripping tyre also adds to safety, your car will turn and stop quicker that most cars, you just have keep your eye on the rear view mirror not to collect someone in you boot.

H

 

[alltracman78]

I know all about spelling

Congratulations

I teach people to use Microsoft Office and I can tell you that American spelling of words such as COLOR, TIRES, RECOGNIZE is a frustrating experience for some when using Word spell checker.

Hm. Maybe Americans have the same problem with your spelling?

We do write Queen's English here Downunder.

Congratulations.
We do write AMERICAN English here. This being an American website. And A Diddy being an American.......


No need to jump on him for what he said. He merely pointed out that we don't spell it that way, after you erroneously corrected him.

 

[A Diddy]

mark lsd is always good, will cost you but it is good. Look for an mr2 lsd, I believe (correct em of im wrong) that it will fit your car, but check im not too sure about 7afe, but all 5sfe and mr2 have bolt ons,

Alltrac thanks for back up. I didnt apprecite him talking down

 

[markpc]

I know all about spelling, I teach people to use Microsoft Office and I can tell you that American spelling of words such as COLOR, TIRES, RECOGNIZE is a frustrating experience for some when using Word spell checker. We do write Queen's English here Downunder. Anyway, back to tyres (tires), I am a great believer of making the best out of what you have. Celica is a great handling car and with a set of good tyres it is even better. do not mix different tyres in the front and back, you are greating a bad balance. Michelin pilots are an exceptionally sticky tyre and a regular tyre can not match it. for my frind in the UK, I have heard that ContiSports is even better. (Continental tyre from Germany). one dude got a set of them in his 600hp Commodore, no wheelspin.
LSD would help but is costly. Front wheel drive can also be a bit of a problem. Good gripping tyre also adds to safety, your car will turn and stop quicker that most cars, you just have keep your eye on the rear view mirror not to collect someone in you boot.

H

Stopping doesn't seem to be a problem (unless I am doing somthing stupid). Stopping in a straight line is excellent (although the ABS is a little eager), this is what makes me question the car of course i expect wheel spin if i just dump the clutch but to floor it in 2nd and the wheel just spins is silly, it is usually just the left tyre (tire whatever) that spins. The car does seem to roll more than i thought it would is there much difference in the suspension setup between the 1.8 ST (UK) and the 2.0 GT ?

 

[markpc]

mark lsd is always good, will cost you but it is good. Look for an mr2 lsd, I believe (correct em of im wrong) that it will fit your car, but check im not too sure about 7afe, but all 5sfe and mr2 have bolt ons,

Alltrac thanks for back up. I didnt apprecite him talking down

I shall look into the LSD I do belive the car needs one as it is mechanically sound.

 

[spy801]

Quote:
Originally Posted by spy801
Tyres my friend, tyres. tyres aren't tyres, one grips and the other just rolls. more you pay better quality you get. i just had a set of Michelin Pilots in my car, phenomenal grip but cost me $1000 AUS, 600 euros. yesterday i bought a set of Michelin Primacy, grip and handling with comfort, I'll se how they go.


"In north america my friend they are called tires. Recongnize where people are from before you correct the spelling? The is no reason for that car to have poor grip unless u have hercules tIres on it...Or maybe if u have a 3sgte engine in there with only fwd."

Now I got it, I was wondering where this correct spelling comments came from. My original words: "Tyres my friend, tyres. tyres aren't tyres," was not meat to have anything to do with picking on American spelling of the word "tires" but expression of importance of grippy tyres, they are the only contact between the road and the car. Some years ago there was an add on TV about Castrol GTX motor oil where the mafia guy said: "Oils ain't oils". we still use it to express that a product may look same but is anything but...
I think sometimes the American spelling would be better, simple, more the way the word is pronounced. So my apologies for creating a situation which was misunderstood.

SPY801

 

[A Diddy]

no offence taken, its an internet board