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Well I think there might be enough people on here interested so we might have a lively discourse on the subject. I will start with a couple of thoughts that started this. All view points are welcome just be prepared to defend your opinions with reason and facts. Lets keep it respectful and lets not get butthurt folks:thumbsup:



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I'm glad the judge did that. Her response is what our society has become - one of no respect for anyone. I became a teacher when I retired from the air force (my wife and I are now both retired teachers) and the first thing I learned from my wife is that every child is a victim! A victim of what? You'll find out when the mother gets here. And scenes like this video don't surprise me one bit because those same "victims" have now grown up.



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To your point Throck I think it has a lot to do with society setting up a system that allows people to never grow up. The issue is a lot of people today never ever do. I see it in people all the time. They don't and will not read up and educate themselves on issues. Even "adults" with good jobs and careers. "I don't have time for that" On issues of science/religion/politics etc. People today operate in large part on emotion fueled by media on both sides of any issue using slanted reporting to reinforce whatever emotional stance they take. I find it nut but I know a lawyer who is a bigot. He has no room for any opposing views. He will discuss with you but he will never waver from his party is right and the opposing party is wrong and responsible for all the ills. EVER.

This is intellectually unreal. If you have the ability to use critical thinking and are objective not subjective you can not arrive at such a lopsided view on most any issue. I see it a lot. I am a big KC Chiefs fan and spend time reading up on the NFL. Many many people spend a lot more time on sports in general. But they still "don't have time" to become responsible informed adults. You have to ask yourself how did we get to this point? You can bet your but that our parents and grandparents who lived through the Great depression did not have time for such childish luxuries. They were to busy trying to feed and cloth America.
 

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Lost my patience...they took to long.:lol:

Did you hear about the people that think Hide n Seek should be banned? I found this little article in response to that topic. I like the way he came up with the reasons for the other games. LOL

There are days when I think that I am an overprotective, crazy dad. And then I read stories about the parents who are crazier than I am and I feel better. These parents made me feel better about myself today.

The overprotective parents of America will not rest until they eliminate everything that you remember loving from childhood. The latest target? Hide-and-seek. Apparently, parents are now steering their kids away from hide-and-seek . . . because they think it makes them anti-social and vulnerable to predators? Here’s the theory. In hide-and-seek, kids are encouraged to be secretive. They’re encouraged to ignore people calling their name looking for them. And they’re encouraged to find secluded, hidden places.

I think this could be a game in itself – pick any game and try to find the way it corrupts our kids. Here are the ones I cam up with.

Red Rover - This game teaches kids that it is OK for a group of children to pick on one kid, pretend they want him on their side…and then clothesline him when he comes over.

Monopoly -
This one teaches our kids that investing in real estate is a good idea. We all know that is not true.

Go Fish -
This innocent little card game teaches our kids that when you don’t get what you want it is OK to leave and go fishing.

Old Maid -
What is so bad about little old ladies? This game says you should avoid them and if you somehow end up one – you are a loser.

I’m not sure if that’s going to make you ban your kids from playing hide-and-seek or any other games, but it’s at least worth knowing that no matter how overprotective you are, there are always parents who are crazier out there.
 

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Just waiting for Kevin and Gene.:D
Lost my patience...they took to long.:lol:
I'll come out to play later this afternoon. :lol: I don't have the time right now to post up one of my tomes, but rest assured it's coming....
 

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Dodge Ball: Violence is celebrated and they single one person as better based on physical attributes which we all know is wrong as some people are not born with the physique of Adonis.



Sad thing is it has been banned almost everywhere. I found it a great way to get in some shots on the sob's you didn't like:eek:


Musical Chairs: They play a game where people are continually loosing their seat at the table. We all know that Government always gives everyone a seat at the table so it is sending the wrong message that if you are not quick enough you will loose your standing and place in the world.


Keep Away : Trying to keep the prize away from the persecuted person in the middle teaches a group mentality to keep someone down, very very bad.


Simon Says: Here we have another game that teaches above all else don't question authority or you loose. How is that a good thing, while government is always benevolent you should always have the right to refuse an order at work etc that makes you feel uncomfortable or seems to be very hard to carry out.
 

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I'm glad the judge did that. Her response is what our society has become - one of no respect for anyone. I became a teacher when I retired from the air force (my wife and I are now both retired teachers) and the first thing I learned from my wife is that every child is a victim! A victim of what? You'll find out when the mother gets here. And scenes like this video don't surprise me one bit because those same "victims" have now grown up.
As you've heard me say a 100 times in these threads, this is what happened when the Baby Boomers and their Yuppie children, educated well beyond what most of their parents had experienced and now smarmy in their arrogance that they just knew it all, ate up with a fork and a spoon the "new child rearing" espoused in the late 70s and early 80s by the "experts"
who threw thousands of years of parenting away for their new, feel good, self-esteem, everybody gets a trophy, abomination of child rearing.

All of America is feeling the repercussions of that now that three generations have been born into that philosophy/method, and now those children are having children and....you get the point. In short, America is suffering socially with a population that has become near universally narcissistic, selfish, rude, crude, demanding, and candy ass. It affects us politically and economically because now these people are of voting age, and they're voting in what they know (socialism/statism), and they're throwing away the old order (independence, honor, can-do free market).

This is why I have no hope for America, because demographics via these voters, as well as a sinking replacement population, will never allow for a return to the "old ways."




To your point Throck I think it has a lot to do with society setting up a system that allows people to never grow up. The issue is a lot of people today never ever do. I see it in people all the time. They don't and will not read up and educate themselves on issues. Even "adults" with good jobs and careers. "I don't have time for that" On issues of science/religion/politics etc. People today operate in large part on emotion fueled by media on both sides of any issue using slanted reporting to reinforce whatever emotional stance they take. I find it nut but I know a lawyer who is a bigot. He has no room for any opposing views. He will discuss with you but he will never waver from his party is right and the opposing party is wrong and responsible for all the ills. EVER.

This is intellectually unreal. If you have the ability to use critical thinking and are objective not subjective you can not arrive at such a lopsided view on most any issue. I see it a lot. I am a big KC Chiefs fan and spend time reading up on the NFL. Many many people spend a lot more time on sports in general. But they still "don't have time" to become responsible informed adults. You have to ask yourself how did we get to this point? You can bet your but that our parents and grandparents who lived through the Great depression did not have time for such childish luxuries. They were to busy trying to feed and cloth America.
See my above reply for this as well, but addressing specifically your observation about people never growing up: Why should they when three generations have all been perpetual winners, praised even when they lose, never knowing what true failure is, and literally never knowing what hard economic and personal times are like the Great Depression.

As for intellectual and knowledge failure, this is what happens when cultural entertainment has become so pervasive that most adult Americans have more movies in their home DVD/Blu-Ray library than most network TV stations had stored 30 years ago, and where the little children are in such need of the same entertainment not having drop-down DVD displays in your automobile is grounds for suicide.

And news? That's something you get from Jon Stewart and the like. That shit is literally taken by far too many as real news. :facepalm: :disappoin
 

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Dodge Ball: Violence is celebrated and they single one person as better based on physical attributes which we all know is wrong as some people are not born with the physique of Adonis.

Sad thing is it has been banned almost everywhere. I found it a great way to get in some shots on the sob's you didn't like:eek:

Musical Chairs: They play a game where people are continually loosing their seat at the table. We all know that Government always gives everyone a seat at the table so it is sending the wrong message that if you are not quick enough you will loose your standing and place in the world.

Keep Away : Trying to keep the prize away from the persecuted person in the middle teaches a group mentality to keep someone down, very very bad.

Simon Says: Here we have another game that teaches above all else don't question authority or you loose. How is that a good thing, while government is always benevolent you should always have the right to refuse an order at work etc that makes you feel uncomfortable or seems to be very hard to carry out.
Political correctness.


For those of you out there who are religious, this is why I maintain P.C. is truly evil. It strips people of their freedom, their independence, all under the guise of "fairness" and "compassion."

For those of you non-religious, it is the purest example of the state acting as a god dictating to you what to think, how to act, and it's an abomination because it strips you of liberty.

I'm proud as anything to have taught those same games to my own little girl, my nephews, and all their friends. Screw political correctness. I'm not going down without a fight, and neither should any of you. :thumbsup:
 

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Dodge Ball: Violence is celebrated and they single one person as better based on physical attributes which we all know is wrong as some people are not born with the physique of Adonis.



Sad thing is it has been banned almost everywhere. I found it a great way to get in some shots on the sob's you didn't like:eek:
I absolutely loved dodge ball and I was one of the smallest guys in my junior high class playing against a lot of guys who were in high school and already built like men. I wasn't like one fat bugger eating pansy who always tried to be the first one to get out by barely touching the ball as it sailed past him. I enjoyed the game even when I got tagged hard enough to hear a ping from the ball for seconds afterward. :D

Sure I was small and I couldn't throw the ball so hard it made everyone wonder how the ball didn't explode when it hit the wall but I was a man and tried my best to stay in to the end and I took the hits like a man too. Taught me how to buck up when afraid and be a man despite being in pain from a 50mph hit instead of crying and complaining like some girly boys in my school did. :lol:

Sure I got tagged in the head hard enough to knock me down and make me dizzy at times but so what it was fun. I got up laughing and walked it off. I guess these days now everyone is a victim waiting to be victimized and too special to ever potentially harm. Dodge ball would do them better than all that thumb exercise they get now with texting.
 

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Well I think there might be enough people on here interested so we might have a lively discourse on the subject. I will start with a couple of thoughts that started this. All view points are welcome just be prepared to defend your opinions with reason and facts. Lets keep it respectful and lets not get butthurt folks:thumbsup:



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Young lady feels that because she is a woman she would get different treatment in the judicial system.
 

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I absolutely loved dodge ball and I was one of the smallest guys in my junior high class playing against a lot of guys who were in high school and already built like men. I wasn't like one fat bugger eating pansy who always tried to be the first one to get out by barely touching the ball as it sailed past him. I enjoyed the game even when I got tagged hard enough to hear a ping from the ball for seconds afterward. :D

Sure I was small and I couldn't throw the ball so hard it made everyone wonder how the ball didn't explode when it hit the wall but I was a man and tried my best to stay in to the end and I took the hits like a man too. Taught me how to buck up when afraid and be a man despite being in pain from a 50mph hit instead of crying and complaining like some girly boys in my school did. :lol:

Sure I got tagged in the head hard enough to knock me down and make me dizzy at times but so what it was fun. I got up laughing and walked it off. I guess these days now everyone is a victim waiting to be victimized and too special to ever potentially harm. Dodge ball would do them better than all that thumb exercise they get now with texting.
 

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Sounds like someone is in "denial". She cannot believe that she's "for real in Court". So she gets all wierded out and acts "out of sorts".

I saw definite signs that she was like "This isn't happening to me".

She definitely needed some coaching prior to showing up in Court. First and foremost she is on the edge of some serious shit. I don't think she really believed that she was in trouble and by just shooting off her mouth could get into more trouble.

Second, the Legal Justice system is very expensive. She needed to realize that "keep it to business" is the way to go.

The term "Fuck me" is not like "Fuck you". "Fuck me" means, "I've been fucked". Just isn't smart to use any profanity around anyone involved in the legal justice system. They all tend to get riled up expecting bad shit.


The Court steps hard on the little shit because if they don't the big shit jumps off real fast.




This is why Courts try to keep it businesslike....

This guy attacks a dude who raped and then murdered his Mom. He got convicted for "Disrupting a Court Proceeding". He probably smiles each time he considers his "conviction".


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20023833-504083.html

The brother of a murdered woman attacks the accused in Court. The accused not only killed the woman but her unborn child. He was sentenced to sixty years without parole. He'll die in prison, maybe sooner if the victim's brother can arrange it.


Hearing that guy scream is really heart breaking. I can only imagine how the Baliffs felt, wanting to keep order but kind of wishing they could just let the two of them settle their business alone.

Who can blame either of these men for wanting to take justice into their own hands? What sort of person wouldn't at least consider it?
 

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Young lady feels that because she is a woman she would get different treatment in the judicial system.
And, most often, she will. The law is very lenient for women. Examples are legion.
 
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And, most often, she will. The law is very lenient for women. Examples are legion.
Women are grossly less likely than males to commit violent crimes. There are some bad ass women out there, sure. They're a small minority.


Women are the fastest growing segment of the prison population... probably because of our War on Drugs.
 

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From a yahoo article: Celebrating birthdays at school just got a little less fun for kids in Australia. New guidelines issued Tuesday by the country's National Health and Medical Research Council say that children can no longer blow out the candles on cakes at school because doing so spreads too many germs.

I don't know if they took this far enough or not. I think instead of not having the birthday parties they should just cancel the birthdays.
 

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Women are grossly less likely than males to commit violent crimes. There are some bad ass women out there, sure. They're a small minority.


Women are the fastest growing segment of the prison population... probably because of our War on Drugs.
I don't give a shit whether they're violent offenses or not. Women almost universally pull much lighter sentences than men, particularly regarding sex crimes. Only sentences that seem to be meted out equally with both sexes are drunk driving/manslaughter convictions and monetary crimes like check kiting or embezzlement.
 

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From a yahoo article: Celebrating birthdays at school just got a little less fun for kids in Australia. New guidelines issued Tuesday by the country's National Health and Medical Research Council say that children can no longer blow out the candles on cakes at school because doing so spreads too many germs.

I don't know if they took this far enough or not. I think instead of not having the birthday parties they should just cancel the birthdays.
Seems like all the Anglo countries (Great Britain, Canada, U.S., Australia, N.Z.) have been infected with some kind of mass hysteria, even a mass insanity, with this unnatural obsession over safety. I think for the U.S. specifically, the cycle that's created this is as follows:

Politicians sell fear to the public, and promise increasing levels of safety through regulations and laws

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Lawyers (comprising half of all legislators on average), seeing opportunity, pursue these laws and file frivolous lawsuits in order to "protect the public"

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The public, inundated by helicopter parenting, fear of lawsuits, and disconnected from the real world by decades of the easiest living humanity has ever known, drink the "we must pass more laws!" Kool-Aid

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Repeat this vicious cycle
 

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