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I wonder if there is a distributor rotor in 2004 camry LE I4? I didn't see it. However it is in the 2001 civic connected to the spark plugs. If camry doesn't have the rotor, how does it get around using distributor rotor?
 

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I wonder if there is a distributor rotor in 2004 camry LE I4? I didn't see it. However it is in the 2001 civic connected to the spark plugs. If camry doesn't have the rotor, how does it get around using distributor rotor?
Most modern engines don't have mechanical distributors - the ignition is completely under direct ECU control. The engine has individual coils, and the ECU provides voltage to the coil to create the spark at the right time. http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h23.pdf gives you a good overview of the components in play.
 

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coil packs are the shit...

you usually dont need to replace them till they go bad...

i think the last camry motor to use distributors was the older 2.2 liter in gen 3-4 camry....
 

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cool. thanks for the info. How long does coil pack last? When changing out spark plugs, do we need to change out spark plug wires?
 

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What wires? The coil packs sit on top of the spark plug, in most applications, now.
 

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cool. thanks for the info. How long does coil pack last? When changing out spark plugs, do we need to change out spark plug wires?
depends on the car.

coils:
in a VW/Audi, a coil lasts 20,000kms. My Camry has 160,000 and is still on original coils. I know a camry with well over 200,000kms and still original coils. coils are only changed when they need to be. you'll get an engine light indicating a misfire in a cylinder # indicating that a plug, coil, or wire to it is bad.

spark plug wires:
I wouldn't change them until I have to. If I got the misfire check engine light, I would attempt to change these before i replace coils.
I have seen wires be the cause to problems... my bro had 105,000kms on his protege and he kept getting misfire cylinder 1 codes. First we changed the plugs, then the wires (which fixed it) and if that didn't do it, we'd change the coil(s).

spark plugs:
we have iridium, and are rated for 170,000kms give or take a few 1000 (I changed mine at 150,000)

hope that sums it up:thumbsup:
 

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depends on the car.

coils:
in a VW/Audi, a coil lasts 20,000kms. My Camry has 160,000 and is still on original coils. I know a camry with well over 200,000kms and still original coils. coils are only changed when they need to be. you'll get an engine light indicating a misfire in a cylinder # indicating that a plug, coil, or wire to it is bad.

In a VW/Audi a coil lasts 20,000 Kms. Where did you get this piece of information from? 20,000 kms is one year or less than one year of driving. I had a VW before, i don't remember changing it every year. As a matter of fact, I use to be a big VW fanatic. 20,000 is not possible. VW owners would be outraged. I know of lot of friends with VW and Audi's and I don't hear them complaining about their coil packs or changing it every year.
 

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"i think the last camry motor to use distributors was the older 2.2 liter in gen 3-4 camry...."

The generation 3 (1992-1996) Camry 2.2 5SFE engine was the last to use a distributor. The generation 4 (1997-2001) Camry 2.2 5SFE engine had gone to a distributorless ignition system.

Mike
 

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depends on the car.

coils:
in a VW/Audi, a coil lasts 20,000kms. My Camry has 160,000 and is still on original coils. I know a camry with well over 200,000kms and still original coils. coils are only changed when they need to be. you'll get an engine light indicating a misfire in a cylinder # indicating that a plug, coil, or wire to it is bad.

In a VW/Audi a coil lasts 20,000 Kms. Where did you get this piece of information from? 20,000 kms is one year or less than one year of driving. I had a VW before, i don't remember changing it every year. As a matter of fact, I use to be a big VW fanatic. 20,000 is not possible. VW owners would be outraged. I know of lot of friends with VW and Audi's and I don't hear them complaining about their coil packs or changing it every year.
That figure was a bit of an exaggeration, but the coils have been a trouble area for VW, and one of the stronger contributors for the relatively poor reliability reports for VW.
 

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no distributior or rotor on most newer toyotas
instead they use individual coil packs
 

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depends on the car.

coils:
in a VW/Audi, a coil lasts 20,000kms. My Camry has 160,000 and is still on original coils. I know a camry with well over 200,000kms and still original coils. coils are only changed when they need to be. you'll get an engine light indicating a misfire in a cylinder # indicating that a plug, coil, or wire to it is bad.

In a VW/Audi a coil lasts 20,000 Kms. Where did you get this piece of information from? 20,000 kms is one year or less than one year of driving. I had a VW before, i don't remember changing it every year. As a matter of fact, I use to be a big VW fanatic. 20,000 is not possible. VW owners would be outraged. I know of lot of friends with VW and Audi's and I don't hear them complaining about their coil packs or changing it every year.
My condolences on the VW purchase...

VW owners should be outraged, that they got suckered into buying and i quote "quality german engineering" that has been $hit since I remember them (in the 80's)

My apologies on the sarcasm (20,000kms). I meant they go very often, sometimes within a year of changing them to a couple years.

Every Piece of $hit VW/Audi I know of has coil problems. Let me give you a list of the pieces of crap i'm referring to that I've SEEN myself needing coil(s). most are of my one friend who loves VW's and had a slew of them (I dont get why):
81 jetta
83 rabbit
88 jetta
92 corrado
83 scirocco
94 jetta
02 jetta
98 passat
04 jetta

and finally, to prove that even audi is a piece of crap...
my co-worker's 05 audi a4, 70,000kms, 2 coils went.


Now sure maybe they'll last a little over 20,000k, but you get what I'm saying.

My apologies to whoever bought a VW, not for my comments on coils, but I feel sorry for you for having bought one.:thumbsup: If that's what quality german engineering is about, I'll take my chances with a KIA.

/RANT about VW junk
 

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vw = electronic problems for life...

and thank you for clarifying the gen 3 and gen 4 coil pack thing
 
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