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To be honest, I was under the impression the 0-60 time was in the mid 6-second range. I am sure it kicks ass and all, but I am not that impressed.
 

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Is 7.2 seconds 0-60 not enough for you? Thats pretty damn good for a 2.4L 4cyl...
 

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Not much faster than our (lame ass) Honda Pilot :confused:

I was expecting more from it. I thought the 0-60 was in the mid-7 second range STOCK, and the SC would get it into the 6's.

Figure, you are getting into WRX terriorty for that cash. $23k if you know how to deal.
 

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Whoa, no way. $16000 is a stock tC. The S/C is supposed to be around $3500 installed. Its under $20,000, not $23,000. Also, for that extra $3000 that you pay for the WRX (not counting the suspension and other goodies), you're only getting 20-30 more horses and about 40 more ft-lb of torque. That seems like a lot, but the rex is boosted by turbo, not a supercharger. For that money, I don't think those numbers are worth it. Especially since turbo's have much more potential than that.
 

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To be honest, I was under the impression the 0-60 time was in the mid 6-second range. I am sure it kicks ass and all, but I am not that impressed.
Neither am I. $3500 plus tax.... that's roughly $100 per 1 horsepower. And you lose out on 12 months of warranty if you installed the thing yourself. The labor rates for installing the thing at the dealership is ridiculous (warranty of the thing stays intact if you install it through the dealer). I got quoted $175/hr at around 8-9hrs installation time with an additional $100 storage fee for overnight storing due to length of install (here at Burlingame Putnam Toyota). The sad thing is, for about $20,000+ (which is what the car would be estimated to be with the s/c not installed), there are other cars at that price range with more horsepower and better performance STOCK. There's only so much you can do to a 4-cylinder engine. If it's horses you want, might as well just get a V6 or V8. It's cheaper than constantly modifying your car with add-ons. In this case, no matter what you do to your car, there will ALWAYS be a car faster than yours while in the meantime, the Highway Patrol is always waiting right around the corner. :cool:
 

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^What are you guys talking about!?!? The car is $16000 without the supercharger!!!
 

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What in the hell did they add to it to make it cost $26K o_O,

Wow.. I just checked it.. If you click every option on the site for the tC, it would be about $27k, and add the $3400 S/C.. your really steppin into Sti/Evo territory.. but then again.. You don't need every damn option.. like cargo net this, bike rack that, and their crappy ground effects... So edmunds price is BS. If you go by their logic.... You could get a Evo MR fully loaded for $38K... but bah.. then your steppin into Corvette land.. Yes it's very early for me and I'm goin back to bed...
 

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^What are you guys talking about!?!? The car is $16000 without the supercharger!!!
I know. We all know that a stock tC without any add-ons is about 16K. $20K includes the stock tC and the supercharger alone NOT including the installation of the s/c. We were mainly referencing the car that was reviewed in the article. After reading the article about their testing of this supercharged tC, "their" tC that they tested with the s/c was about $26K according to the article and it's about $23K with just the s/c and few add-ons like the overpriced 18" rims (I guess that includes all the installation and what not that you're bound to have to pay for if you install it through the dealership without nulling the 12month warranty as the article states). I just don't think spending $23K-$26K on a package like the one edmunds tested is worth it. Like the last person stated, around $27K, you might as well just get an Evo or a nice V6 '06 Eclipse GT that has some pretty nice numbers for performance. Just my opinion that's all.
 

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I think I would want about $500 of options, max, if I was to buy a new tC.

Those blue LED's are pretty cool, IMO :smokin:
 

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I know. We all know that a stock tC without any add-ons is about 16K. $20K includes the stock tC and the supercharger alone NOT including the installation of the s/c. We were mainly referencing the car that was reviewed in the article. After reading the article about their testing of this supercharged tC, "their" tC that they tested with the s/c was about $26K according to the article and it's about $23K with just the s/c and few add-ons like the overpriced 18" rims (I guess that includes all the installation and what not that you're bound to have to pay for if you install it through the dealership without nulling the 12month warranty as the article states). I just don't think spending $23K-$26K on a package like the one edmunds tested is worth it. Like the last person stated, around $27K, you might as well just get an Evo or a nice V6 '06 Eclipse GT that has some pretty nice numbers for performance. Just my opinion that's all.
Well, I dunno... look at Tony The Tiger... he dynoed his custom turbo Camry out at 394HP to the wheels.... he's destroying Evo's, from what I've been hearing. He put in $10,000+ in the engine alone. And its very admirable. I wouldn't want a car that comes built for performance or crap like that. I think the high road is when you take a regular car that seemingly has little potential, and turn it into a monster. In all honesty, I have absolutely zero desire to get an Evo or an STi. Absolutely none. There's no personal satisfaction there for me. I'm planning a big project for my Camry sometime in the not-too-distant future thats going to boost my numbers like crazy, and I'll be destroying Si's, even with my 4-speed auto. Its my little secret, but its in planning.

So I don't agree with the way you guys make the whole S/C'd tC thing seem like a bad, overpriced idea. I think there's lots of potential there, you just have to add the right things to it, tweak it the right way, and make sure its tuned properly. Besides, how do you know the tC that Edmunds tested was even tuned at the dyno? Maybe they just slapped on the S/C and jumped on the track without changing the a/f ratio with an SAFC II or anything? You should keep that in mind... Toyota has a tC show car that they transport from show to show... it has the TRD supercharger and a prototype TMIC. The guy was telling me that Toyota ran a few tests with it before making it strictly a show car, but they never tuned it .What says that Edmunds did? All they say is that they're running 7 pounds of boost, which is great... but how do they know that that boost is being used efficiently without dyno-tuning it? In an untuned car, its very easy for all that boost to just be wasted and unused.
 

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No desire for a EVO or STI? You are boring :hammer: j/k

After test driving the 2006 STI, I realized that my Camry never was, is, or will be that sort of car. It seems like a downhill battle to try. Maybe you can make it accelerate fast, but brakes, suspension, handling, etc. will never be up to speed.
 

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^:lol:

With enough money, it can be. Like I said, Tony The Tiger has dumped a crapload of money into his Camry... $10000+ was just on the engine alone. But he's beating Evo's and STi's... maybe not on a rally course, but on a track.. UfoZ was saying that he was estimating HP numbers of his Camry turbo (4cyl, btw) in the upper 200's before he blew his motor a month ago. Justin (Wraith) has done some amazing things with that Echo of his... before him, I never even looked twice at those little cars, but he really made me a believer that ANY car has potential.. it all just depends on how badly you want it.
 

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Geez, not everyone buys a car to race against the whole world. 95% of the time I start up my tC, I'm going to friggin' work and I'm in no hurry to get there sooner than I should. Shelling out $10K on an engine sounds like a pretty peculiar investment. I dunno, if I came home to my wife and said "Hey darling, I just used $10,000.00 to make our car go faster" I'd probably get kicked out of the house with divorce papers to follow. I'd be using $10,000.00 to pay off more important things like my house mortgage and saving up on my kid's college tuition. But on an engine?
 

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^:lol: Well, to each his own. If you can afford it, and its your hobby, then why not? Its all a matter of personal satisfaction. My next car is going to be a project car (after college is over, I'm buying myself a house, with a nice big garage to put my project car into). I won't have any problems paying off my mortgage and buying car parts at the same time, nor will I be getting married :lol: . I can afford it, and I want to do it, and there is no XX chromosome in the way. :D
 

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supercharger cont'd

Here are my own questions about the supercharger. I'd like to go faster, but not if it compromises the longevity or day-to-day driving expense of my car.

1) If I drive 80% babying and 20% aggressively, how much will the supercharger affect my mileage? (I have the cold air intake and I'm getting 29-30 right now).

2) How does adding the supercharger affect the life of the engine?

3) I found out after the fact that with the cold air intake my car may or may not pass smog (see other discussion threads). Does the supercharger affect successful smog inspections?

4) Can one install both the cold air intake and the supercharger with no problems? -- Probably a newbie question on this one, be gentle.

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1) That really depends on how much freeway and how much city driving you actually do. But superchargers are A LOT more economical than turbo's.

2) Force inducing ANY engine that doesn't come force induced from factory will wear out the engine parts a lot faster than stock would. Even putting in your cold-air intake will decrease the life of the engine a little bit more than it would normally. Most people rebuild their engines with forged internals when they force induce so that the boost doesn't destroy the pistons and other parts. TRD made sure that the engine could handle the supercharger's boost, but like I said, whenever you force induce any engine that wasn't built for boost, you're going to greatly decrease engine life.

3) Forced induction will affect emissions 99.9% of the time. You will not pass smog if you force induce. You would need to find someone that would pass you for a little bit of extra $$. But you wouldn't have to worry about smog until 2011 so I wouldn't even worry about it.

4) Yes.
 

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^:lol: Really? It works when I click it... anyway, its in the SoCal section of the Regional Meetings forums. We're going down to Fullerton on Feb. 4th for car installs/maintenance, then bowling, and then food... and then whatever comes to mind. Haha.

Link fixed.
 

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For 25k you can buy an SRT-4 with stage two and toys and be in the low 13's to high 12's in the 1/4 mile if you want a race car....
 

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Well... I'm putting the supercharger on my tC next week, along with new rims and tires. I'll post with the results.

I have a K & N cold air intake, and the Agency-Power pulley (which rocks in the "bang for da buck" category).

Should be interesting.
 
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