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Just found this article on MSN.

Car sales shocker: Ford tumbles to No. 4

Updated: 4:05 p.m. MT Feb 1, 2007

DETROIT - Ford’s U.S. sales dropped 19 percent in January, allowing Toyota to pass it again as the nation’s No. 2 automaker. But Ford’s numbers were so bad that it was also passed by DaimlerChrysler, knocking the troubled automaker into fourth place for the month.
Times are tough for Ford Motor Co., which attributed its decline to a long-term strategy of returning to profitability by cutting low-profit rental car sales and reducing its reliance on incentives.
Analysts predict that Toyota Motor Corp. likely will knock Ford off its traditional No. 2 spot for the full year in 2007, but Ford, which lost $12.7 billion last year, says it is focused more on returning to profitability in North America.
“Where we are in sales races and sales rankings or where people forecast that we’re going to be is a distraction that we’re not going to be bothered with,” George Pipas, Ford’s U.S. sales analysis manager, said during a conference call with industry analysts and reporters. “We’ve got a job to do in North America, and that is all we are focused on.”
Ford said its sales to rental companies were down 65 percent last month from January of 2006. Excluding fleet sales, the total was down 5 percent, but showed growth in mid-sized cars and new crossover vehicles, Pipas said.
Ford wasn’t the only automaker with a down month in January. General Motors Corp. said Thursday its sales dropped 16.6 percent as it, too, worked to wean itself from rental car companies.
Toyota, on the other hand, continued to stomp on other manufacturers. Its sales were up 9.5 percent in January. DaimlerChrysler AG’s total was also up, by 3.2 percent. Nissan Motor Co. sales rose 8.9 percent, while Honda reported its total rose 2.5 percent in January.
Jesse Toprak, chief economist for the Edmunds.com auto Web site, said Ford could pass Toyota again for a few more months — but not for long.
“By summer, Toyota will be in the No. 2 position permanently,” he predicted.
Toyota sales surpassed Ford’s in two months last year. The Japanese automaker sold 175,850 vehicles last month, including 100,256 cars and 75,594 trucks.
GM’s car total dropped 22.5 percent for the month, while its light truck total was down 11.5 percent. In all, it sold 244,614 light vehicles for the month, remaining No. 1 in sales.
“I would conclude that January certainly was not a stellar month,” Paul Ballew, GM’s executive director of global market and industry analysis, said on a conference call.
He said the company did well in some segments when fleets were excluded, part of its strategy to reduce low-profit sales to rental companies during the first half of the year. GM’s rental sales, Ballew said, were down about 40 percent from January of last year as the company tries to build its brands and boost resale values.
“That’s consistent with our aggressive reduction plan that we began two years ago,” he said.
Excluding fleet sales, GM’s retail sales were down 8 percent for the month.
GM also lowered its first-quarter North American production forecast from guidance given last month by 40,000 vehicles, or 3.6 percent, to 1.1 million vehicles. GM said it reflected the effort to reduce rental fleet sales. In the first quarter of 2006, GM produced 1.3 million vehicles in the region.
Toyota’s car total was up 13.1 percent in January, while truck sales rose 5 percent. Toyota said sales, which include the Toyota and Lexus brands, were the best ever for January. Sales of its Camry mid-sized car rose 14.7 percent, while its hybrid Prius and RAV4 compact sport utility vehicle also made gains.

Ford’s car sales were down 32.5 percent from a year ago, and light truck sales were down 9.8 percent.
In the first full month of sales for its new crossovers, Ford reported it sold 5,586 Ford Edges and 1,699 Lincoln MKXs. But sales of Ford’s F-series pickup truck were down about 15 percent from a year ago.
Ford said it expects weakness in new home construction to hurt full-size pickup sales through the first half of the year. Its sales include Ford, Lincoln and Mercury brands, as well as Jaguar, Land Rover and Volvo.
Ford’s fleet sales were expected to be lower because it no longer is selling the Taurus — once the nation’s top-selling car. But Pipas said fleet reductions also came in many current products.
DaimlerChrysler sold 173,377 vehicles in January. Chrysler Group’s sales, which include the Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge brands, were up less than 1 percent while Mercedes-Benz sales rose 36.9 percent in January compared with the same month of 2006.
The gains came as Chrysler saw its best January in six years and Mercedes reported its best January sales ever, DaimlerChrysler said. Chrysler said its January sales were driven by solid retail sales, while fleet sales were down by a single digit. The company said it only gives specific fleet sales numbers on a quarterly basis.
General Motors shares rose 19 cents, or 0.58 percent, to $33.03 on the New York Stock Exchange, while Ford’s shares rose 16 cents, or 1.97 percent, to $8.29. DaimlerChrysler’s U.S. shares rose 63 cents, or 1.01 percent, to $63.12.
The Associated Press reports unadjusted figures, calculating the percentage change in the total number of vehicles sold in one month compared with the same month a year earlier. Some automakers report percentages adjusted for sales days, which last month was 25 and in January 2006 was 24.


I especially like the comment that “By summer, Toyota will be in the No. 2 position permanently,”. Congratulations Toyota. :clap: :whatwhat:
 

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^^^^ Yes, Toyota will pass GM, and Ford deserves the boot for lousy quality. Had two Fords within the last ten years. An Explorer and a Focus. The Explorer had the 4.0L SOHC engine and the 6 spd. auto trans. Had the eng. and trans replaced and the transfer case twice. That was a '98 Sport. So far the '02 Focus hasn't given us much trouble but I have my fingers crossed.
 

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I will be sad to see Ford go. They have produced some great cars over the years. It's too bad a few incompetent executives have been able to run the company into the ground. I would say two to three years will see Ford throwing in the towel.
 

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Read that the new president of Ford is doing two things. He is going to kill the Ford 500 name and rename it Taurus. And he is going to be a salesman for a day and sell Ford cars.
 

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Streaker said:
.......................and Ford deserves the boot for lousy quality.
Oooooooo the TABOO words... I am surprised engineer and others haven't had their smart opinions posted here yet. :lol:

Yes. Right. The Taurus will save the Ford. I read about that yesterday. All the Ford 500 songs the Ford boys were singing here were empty as usual... :lol:
 

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there are too many ******** buying domestic pick-ups for toyota to become #1 anytime soon in the us.
 

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there are too many ******** buying domestic pick-ups for toyota to become #1 anytime soon in the us.
Not just readnecks buy domestic pickups. . . . A good friend of the family is a very successful lawyer in Dallas and he traded his Mercedes in for an F150. He is anything but *******.

As far as Toyota becoming #1, it will happen. I predict this time next year. GM has held the title for 76 straight years, but the past 30 years are finally catching up to them. No big deal, I'd rather see a money making #2 GM, than a money losing #1 GM.
 

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I think ford should bring some of their european model (eg: the forcus st) to NA since those european model are more attractive (in my opinion).

 

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Oooooooo the TABOO words... I am surprised engineer and others haven't had their smart opinions posted here yet. :lol:
Can you not refrain from jumping out to attack somebody who hasn't even posted in this thread?

Fuck.
 

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Ford has been in this fix before. The Ford family still has 40% of the voting stock, I don’t think will let the company go down the tubes. Their new CEO is an outsider that may be able to bring in new ideas, but who knows. My experience with the newer Ford trucks will cause me to consider something else when the time comes for a replacement.
 

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Toyota should surpass GM this year in world-wide sales, but I believe it will be a couple more years before they catch/pass them in US sales, GM still has a pretty healthy lead.

Like has been said, a healthy #2 GM is better for the worldwide economy than a struggling #1.

Ford going under would not only be bad for the US, but bad for the world economy, and bad for "competition."

If it wasn't for the success of the F-150 would the Tundra, Silverado, and Ram be as good as they are today?

If it wasn't for the Mustang, would GM and Dodge be bringing back the Camaro and Challenger?

Competition is good. Ford not doing well is Bad.

My 2 cents.
 

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Not just readnecks buy domestic pickups. . . . A good friend of the family is a very successful lawyer in Dallas and he traded his Mercedes in for an F150. He is anything but *******.
sorry, i didnt mean all domestic truck owners are ********, but rather all ******** own domestic trucks.
 

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i think all the american car companies are doing poorly in the last few years. bad reliability and mileage on SUVs are crap...

Educate yourself. . . . Financially, yes they are doing poorly, but the products they have been putting out in the last 2 years have been great, and the future looks even brighter. As far as mileage and SUV's, domestics (and GM in particular) are tops for most fuel efficient full-size SUV's. 20-21 MPG real world highway driving in a Suburban. . . . . .that's pretty darn good.

If your going to say something so blatantly wrong, at the very least back it up with some evidence. . . . sheesh. . . . :rolleyes:
 
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