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Generation 3 (2016+) Tacoma: A Keeper OR A Major Failure ?
Toyota has long been known as a super reliable vehicle which maintains its value. But I’m wondering if the Generation 3 Tacoma may be a downward spiral for Toyota?
With the ongoing vibration issues, poor engine performance, less than outstanding gas mileage and lagging creature comforts I see it as a major failure. It seems the Japanese Toyota brand has become like many other auto makers who prefer profit over quality. I predict that as the word gets out we will see those who have already purchased a Gen 3 trying to dump it and will find that they will not be able to get the trade in values Toyota is known for. IMO as perspective buyers become aware they will steer away from buying the Gen 3 and dealers will have to offer huge discounts in an effort to sell their stagnant inventory. Hopefully Toyota will realize they need to correct this mistake and make the improvements necessary before this goes too far.
I really wish Toyota would bring back the 1st generation Tundra upgraded from the ground up. I hate the new full size trucks which don’t offer full access to the items in the bed. I'm thinking that if they redesigned the 1st generation truck with a new body, new motor, new tranny etc. and with all of the new comfort features it would be a great truck and fill a void in Toyota truck sales. Not to mention offering a truck which would be large enough inside for driver and passengers but have great gas mileage opposed to the full size Gen 3 Tundra. There again Toyota would have to up their game to make sure they re-instituted quality control over profits.
But if not I'll be keeping my old 2011. My alternatives are to buy the new Tundra and stop at all of the gas stations or finally after many years of owning Toyotas move to another truck manufacturer. If I had to buy today I’d buy a Ford F150 with the V8 but will probably wait for the new Ford Ranger.
 

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I can't complain about my 16 Sport at all. I bought it in March of 16 and have 9k on the ODO. I've had an 2001 and a 2010 and never had one ounce of problems. I even had my rear spring pack replaced with the upgrade. Otherwise no issues. As far as mileage is concerned, I average 21 highway and around 16 city and I am happy with that. Yes, bigger trucks do get better mileage but all in all I am a happy camper. Now if Toyota came out with a diesel Tacoma, I would get rid of my 16 in a heartbeat.
 

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Unfortunately, I think you're right. And the new Chevy Colorado is going to give the Tacoma a run for the money. Especially the ZR2 model.
 

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Toyota has also managed to sell their 3rd gen Tacos with leaf springs that begin squeaky LOUDLY after gathering debris. I took mine off-roading once and after pressure washing twice, 2 trips to the dealership and creating a case with the national hotline (with whom I just got off the phone) there is no fix. This is at 4k miles. My case manager: "Toyota is aware of the problem but will not replace the leaf springs, as they will begin squeaking again." To clarify: Toyota KNOWS they're distributing trucks designed for Off Road use that squeak after off-roading. This an apparent "engineering issue" with the leaf springs that "has no fix" at the national level.
 

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^ That's been around since 2005. Same suspension on the 3rd Gen, so nothing new. Best solution is to get the dirt/debris out and lubricate it. Jack the truck up by the frame (not the rear axle) to extend the suspension. Then hose out between the leafs. When dry, apply a spray lubricant (do not use something like WD40). Chain lube works well for me. Have done it twice a year apart and they've never squeaked since.
 

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I take Consumer Reports with a grain of salt! They are like the BBB. time and time again over the years they rate something as the best, and it turns out to be junk. For instance in the 80s they rated the Ford escort the top vehicle then. People I worked with that owned them had nothing but problems. I've owned Toyota's now for 30 years, I know they are the most reliable. The heck with what some publication says, own one and see for yourself.
 

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I wanted a Taco for the last 4 years.
Finally was ready to plunk down the money for the 2016 a few months after it came out.
Test drove. Read enough about it on these forums. Walked away and didn't buy it.


It was one of the few trucks that would BARELY fit in my garage (through the door frame).
I was pretty sad.


Then, Honda came back out with the Ridgeline. Test drove the 2017 when it came out. It also, BARELY, fit in my garage.
My 4Runner handles "offroad", if necessary. So, just wanting a "smaller" truck that can fit in the garage AND occasionally haul things (homeowner needs) but not really doing any offroading anymore, or heavy hauling, and coupling that with the issues that I saw/heard on the new Tacos in 2016, and Toyota's lack of caring to fix things.....well, I bought the Ridgeline.


I know some from these forums had become early adopters of the 2016 Taco and, with the issues, turned around and sold and bought something (Ridgeline for some) else.


It was going to be our 3rd Toyota in our garage, currently. Toyota, imho, screwed the pooch.
I LOVE my 3rd gen 4Runner. Wife LOVES her 3rd gen Highlander (we bought it without even test driving one...dealer was shocked at that). Really, REALLY, wanted the 3rd gen Taco.
Oh well. 2 out of 3 ain't bad ;)
 

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I have a 1993 2WD 4 cylinder 4-speed, automatic Toyota pickup and today I'm renting a 2017 Tacoma Access Cab 2WD 4 cylinder 6-speed automatic that has only 2,883 miles on it. I have been very dissappointed with the 2017. Compared to my 1993, the 4 cyl engine in the 2017 accelerates more weakly at small to moderate throttle openings and makes louder, coarser, more disagreeable noises.

The 2017 also has a stiffer, more trucklike ride so fatigue sets in earlier. And the seat bottoms of the 2017 are shorter and harder which contributes to fatigue too. Due, in part, to it's higher, more boxy, less aerodynamic front end, the 2017 is less willing to cruise at 65 MPH and above whereas the 1993 maintains 70-75 MPH with relatively little pressure on the accelerator pedal.

The whole area behind the seats of the 2017 is devoid of sound absorbing and deadening materials so a whole lot of road and other outside noise penetrates the cabin. Thus overall I am very disapponted with the primitive driving experience of the 3rd gen 2WD 4 cyl automatic Access Cab Tacoma and will not be buying one to replace my 1993.
 

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I have a 1993 2WD 4 cylinder 4-speed, automatic Toyota pickup and today I'm renting a 2017 Tacoma Access Cab 2WD 4 cylinder 6-speed automatic that has only 2,883 miles on it. I have been very dissappointed with the 2017. Compared to my 1993, the 4 cyl engine in the 2017 accelerates more weakly at small to moderate throttle openings and makes louder, coarser, more disagreeable noises.

The 2017 also has a stiffer, more trucklike ride so fatigue sets in earlier. And the seat bottoms of the 2017 are shorter and harder which contributes to fatigue too. Due, in part, to it's higher, more boxy, less aerodynamic front end, the 2017 is less willing to cruise at 65 MPH and above whereas the 1993 maintains 70-75 MPH with relatively little pressure on the accelerator pedal.

The whole area behind the seats of the 2017 is devoid of sound absorbing and deadening materials so a whole lot of road and other outside noise penetrates the cabin. Thus overall I am very disapponted with the primitive driving experience of the 3rd gen 2WD 4 cyl automatic Access Cab Tacoma and will not be buying one to replace my 1993.
Very insightful observations there, much appreciated. Your comments about lack of sound deadening strikes home with me. We bought our then-new 2005 Tacoma to replace our 1995 Grand Cherokee, and that's one of the first things I noticed. The Tacoma is like riding in a tin can compared to the old Jeep -- especially noticeable (and annoying, to this day) is rain on the roof. By comparison, the Jeep's insulation was far superior. Rapping on the doors or fenders produced a solid feeling & sound -- not so with the Tacoma. I like the little trucklet but it does wear on you....
 

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My 2014 will be the last one I'll every buy, since Toyota & others aren't producing Std Cab any more. The Std Cab just fits in my garage. If I'm forced to keep a vehicle outside, might at well get an F150 or even the upcoming Ford Ranger.
 

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they didn't like it because of this not quality and i quote!
"the Tacoma has a stiff ride, ponderous handling, loud cabin and awkward driving position."

ive had 4 Tacoma's its a truck, trucks have stiff rides, they are high center vehicles and not as quite as a lexus. worst vehicle i think not
My 16 has been great and the only complaint is the shifting strategy, but that is an EPA issue, just engage the ECT and it shifts much better. It’s hands down better than our 2001 prerunner V-6. Yes it’s a truck, but it’s a truck, oh ya, it’s a truck. :laugh:
 

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Generation 3 (2016+) Tacoma: A Keeper OR A Major Failure ?
Toyota has long been known as a super reliable vehicle which maintains its value. But I’m wondering if the Generation 3 Tacoma may be a downward spiral for Toyota?
With the ongoing vibration issues, poor engine performance, less than outstanding gas mileage and lagging creature comforts I see it as a major failure. It seems the Japanese Toyota brand has become like many other auto makers who prefer profit over quality. I predict that as the word gets out we will see those who have already purchased a Gen 3 trying to dump it and will find that they will not be able to get the trade in values Toyota is known for. IMO as perspective buyers become aware they will steer away from buying the Gen 3 and dealers will have to offer huge discounts in an effort to sell their stagnant inventory. Hopefully Toyota will realize they need to correct this mistake and make the improvements necessary before this goes too far.
I really wish Toyota would bring back the 1st generation Tundra upgraded from the ground up. I hate the new full size trucks which don’t offer full access to the items in the bed. I'm thinking that if they redesigned the 1st generation truck with a new body, new motor, new tranny etc. and with all of the new comfort features it would be a great truck and fill a void in Toyota truck sales. Not to mention offering a truck which would be large enough inside for driver and passengers but have great gas mileage opposed to the full size Gen 3 Tundra. There again Toyota would have to up their game to make sure they re-instituted quality control over profits.
But if not I'll be keeping my old 2011. My alternatives are to buy the new Tundra and stop at all of the gas stations or finally after many years of owning Toyotas move to another truck manufacturer. If I had to buy today I’d buy a Ford F150 with the V8 but will probably wait for the new Ford Ranger.
I purchased a 2017 SR5 and was happy to sell it, I liked the style but the more I drove the less I liked the the truck. Seems they cheapened everything from the wheel well covers to the front mud cover, when the windows roll up the interior door cover would flex. a far cry from my 2008 Taco.. And the lack of loyalty Toyota shows its customers was the final straw. That was the Last Toyota I will ever purchase.
 

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My $2500 beat up 95.5 Taco gets 27MPG unless I'm hauling a ton of crap in the truck and trailer. 16 and 21 sounds like my 99 Ford F150 i bought new for $13.5k (manual trans).
 
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