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For me, if Im going to get an SUV, Id want one that I can take off-road and tow with.
Thats what SUVs are supposed to be all about. If you dont want to go off-road or tow, why not get a Matrix or a Sienna?
Some people want to be "cool" and have an SUV, but dont want the harsh ride and dont need the off-road capability, and thats why you have car-based SUVs (wanna-bes, IMO).
 

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Captain_Toyota said:
For me, if Im going to get an SUV, Id want one that I can take off-road and tow with.
Thats what SUVs are supposed to be all about. If you dont want to go off-road or tow, why not get a Matrix or a Sienna?
Some people want to be "cool" and have an SUV, but dont want the harsh ride and dont need the off-road capability, and thats why you have car-based SUVs (wanna-bes, IMO).
Well, a large amount of seating is necesscary and well, Van's are for soccer moms.....:lol:
 

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I checked one out tonight and the back seat is really really crammed. But the middle seats are adjustible so you can get maybe like an extra 2 inches of footroom. :lol:

I just guess the lil kids are gonna sit in back. :nana:
 

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mr2driver said:
you can get the sienna with awd

i would look into lexus also
Bah, Sienna's are for soccer moms.

I'm really digging this pilot though. It's AWD and it'll probably be the EX-L (Leather w/ moon roof). Although the back seat doesn't seem like it'll be good for long trips........
 

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Captain_Toyota said:
For me, if Im going to get an SUV, Id want one that I can take off-road and tow with.
Thats what SUVs are supposed to be all about. If you dont want to go off-road or tow, why not get a Matrix or a Sienna?
Some people want to be "cool" and have an SUV, but dont want the harsh ride and dont need the off-road capability, and thats why you have car-based SUVs (wanna-bes, IMO).
Yeah...4x4 is for going off-road and possibly hauling stuff off-road. But if all the hauling is on road, I would get a 2WD just because the 2WD usually can haul a bit more due to lighter weight of the vehicle and also saves gas because it's lighter.

I think I take my 2WD vehicles off road more than most people take their SUVs. I got my Camry stuck twice in the sand. I don't even know how many times I got my 2WD work trucks stuck in the soft sand. Our unit "doesn't have priority" for 4x4 vehicles.

A lot of people don't want to be seen in a minivan. There was a woman who worked here who opted to get a Civic instead of an Odyssey after she had her baby. They had a Pontiac coupe before that. She end up really regretting the Civic and wish she got the van instead.

My friend just trade in his Explorer for a Passat wagon and much prefers the wagon. He said it can haul the same ammount of stuff (volume wise) and save gas.
 

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84Cressida said:
You said price wasn't an issue, so how about a Land Cruiser? Great on/off-road performance, seats 8, 275 HP.
Well, I guess it's moreso best "bang for the buck"

So which ever car is best.
So which ever offers the most space, best milage, etc for the least amount of $$.

Hell, we were lookin at Escalades but the milage really sucks, and the quality is kind of eh..
 

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touringcamry said:
Yeah...4x4 is for going off-road and possibly hauling stuff off-road. But if all the hauling is on road, I would get a 2WD just because the 2WD usually can haul a bit more due to lighter weight of the vehicle and also saves gas because it's lighter.

I think I take my 2WD vehicles off road more than most people take their SUVs. I got my Camry stuck twice in the sand. I don't even know how many times I got my 2WD work trucks stuck in the soft sand. Our unit "doesn't have priority" for 4x4 vehicles.
In snowy and icy climates as here in MN, would you recommend 4WD or 2WD.

I'm thinkin 4WD but the 2WD offers some kind of cylinder management. It'll sometimes shut off a couple of cylinders so your getting 4 cylinder milage....
 

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^ No idea. I never drove in ice or snow. I drive on sand. :)

I doubt it would make much difference. I think that 4WD (not AWD) would really on have an advantage in gettting the vehicle moving or unstuck granted you don't have open differentials. After the vehicle is moving, I don't think it really matters once the vehcle is moving. I'm not talking about rock crawling, mud bogging, or Rubicon type stuff where 4WD is a requirement.

On sand 4WD only helps get the vehicle going. Once it's going my 2WD trucks usually don't get stuck as long as they're moving. The 4WD truck helps out a bit if I'm trying to climb a berm or something and the rear wheels are just digging. But if I have a moving start, even my 2WD trucks can get up or part way up the berm. I don't have too much experience with the 4WD truck. And I'm talking about Class 5 trucks here so it might be different for a SUV. My trucks weigh 11,500lb-15,000 empty and run 110PSI in street tires (the 4WD truck has A/T tires)...so I don't know how much of this applies to your situation.

I don't have much experience off roading with a 2WD pickup truck. I've gotten them stuck before, but once was in a section of my parking lot that I didn't realize was soft sand. The other time it got suck because the driver accidentally got the back wheel into a rut that the stake truck dug. The back wheel fell in the rut and the truck was resting on the leaf spring or frame rail.

The cylinder management system is multi-displacement system. When you're cruising, one bank on the V6 shuts off so your vehicle runs on 3 cylinders to save fuel. Microphones and speakers inside the vehicle generate an inverted waveform to cancel out engine noise inside.
 

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CamNub said:
Well, I guess it's moreso best "bang for the buck"

So which ever car is best.
So which ever offers the most space, best milage, etc for the least amount of $$.

Hell, we were lookin at Escalades but the milage really sucks, and the quality is kind of eh..
Land Cruisers are built like tanks, have a LOT of power, and get around 18 mpg. Not bad for a Large SUV.
 

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84Cressida said:
Land Cruisers are built like tanks, have a LOT of power, and get around 18 mpg. Not bad for a Large SUV.

But dont seat seven or eight people any better than the Pilot that gets better gas mileage and is a lot easier to drive around town and things like that.

The Land Cruiser is a great vehicle as far as luxury and off road ability is concerned but for he Money you can go buy a NIce Tahoe or Yukon and get as good if not better gas mileage and more room. Or go to the Sequoia and get about the same gas mileage and more room but probably pay close to the same.
 

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Heres my take:

Get the SequoiaLimited with the following options:
Luxury Package

These are the colors that are available with the Luxury Package.

As far as safety ratings,
http://www.toyota.com/sequoia/models.html go here, and click on the safety tab.
http://www.toyota.com/sequoia/specs.html Here, you will find the specifiacations on the Sequoia
http://www.toyota.com/toyotacomparator/mainComparator.do here is a comparison of all some of the other popular SUVs on the market. Feel free to change.
 
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