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http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/28/autos/cr_car_brand_report_card/?postversion=2008022905

Consumer Reports: Honda makes the best cars

Foreign cares rate highly. Detroit car companies fare poorly in magazine's annual Automaker Report Cards.







NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The best cars you can buy in the United States are made by Honda, according to Consumer Reports. The is the second year in a row the Japanese automaker has been given the distinction.
Honda (HMA) cars and trucks scored an overage of 78 out of a possible 100 points in Consumer Reports' various tests. Toyota (TM) came in second with 75 points followed by BMW, Mazda, Nissan and Volkswagen. (After rounding, Nissan and Volkswagen tied with 71 points.)
"Honda earned the top score because it builds cars that are well-rounded, have excellent reliability and perform very well," the magazine, published by the not-for-profit Consumers Union, said in an announcement.
The overall score for each carmaker is based on the average score of all its vehicles tested by the magazine, and average predicted reliability scores based on the magazine's annual surveys.
The score includes all car brands made by that company. Honda's score would include Acura and Toyota's score would include Lexus, for example. While Ford owns a controlling interest in Mazda, that brand was ranked separately since it's not a fully-owned part of Ford Motor Co.
Detroit car companies had among the lowest overall scores, but there were significant gains, the magazine said. The percentage of Ford (F, Fortune 500) vehicles to earn the magazine's recommendation jumped to 64% this year from 54% last year. 93% of Ford's vehicles have shown average or better reliability in Consumer Reports' owner surveys, a large increase from 63% last year.
General Motors (GM, Fortune 500) didn't fare as well. While the average test score of GM products rose four points to 61, the percentage of vehicles recommended dropped 6%. While many newer models, such as the company's new three-row SUVs, the Cadillac CTS and the Chevrolet Silverado have done well in testing, GM is still burdened by older models that are sub-par, the magazine said.
Chrysler has seen the percentage of its vehicles Consumer Reports recommends drop to just 14 compared to 21% last year. The magazine blamed noisy, weak engines, poor interiors, cramped seating and bad visibility in recently introduced Chrysler products.
Consumer Reports does not accept paid advertising and purchases all of the vehicles it tests anonymously from local retail auto dealers.
I have to say Consumer Reports is bang on with their methodology and reporting.

I love that CNN, ABC, NBC, CBC, Reuters, AP, Yahoo, and all major newspapers always report Consumer Reports Findings.

It's great to see that these trusted news organizations will always spread this kind of great news about Toyota.

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what about an emoticon that has nothing to do with the topic on hand?
 

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what about an emoticon that has nothing to do with the topic on hand?
I was in Hawaii a couple of weeks ago and McDonald's has fried Spam on their breakfast menu. I was to weak in the way of Spam to try it.

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I was in Hawaii a couple of weeks ago and McDonald's has fried Spam on their breakfast menu. I was to weak in the way of Spam to try it.

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Spam is HUGE in Hawaii. Probably because it's cheap and easy to ship and fresh meats cost an arm and a leg there due to Hawaii being in the middle of the ocean. Put it in a sealed can with about a pound of saltwater and it's good to last forever. :D
 

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Perhaps CR was smoking crack the day they decided 2 of the "11 worst cars for 2008" were Toyotas?!?

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/autos/0802/gallery.2008_cr_worst_cars/7.html

Thank goodness for CNN Money to report this. :) :eek:
Because CR has said something I disagree with, I'm going to have to say that their methodology on this list was wrong and that everyone knows CR is a joke. It's the only thing I can do to try to discredit a magazine that is well respected in the journalist community.

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Because CR has said something I disagree with, I'm going to have to say that their methodology on this list was wrong and that everyone knows CR is a joke. It's the only thing I can do to try to discredit a magazine that is well respected in the journalist community.

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Well said!
 

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Because CR has said something I disagree with, I'm going to have to say that their methodology on this list was wrong and that everyone knows CR is a joke. It's the only thing I can do to try to discredit a magazine that is well respected in the journalist community.

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What does "well respected in the journalist community" mean anyways. I know you're attempting to be sarcastic, and it's mildly funny.

Journalists aren't exactly the most honorable people in my book. They are people, and they have an agenda. They have easy access to "media" to get their agenda out to the "people".

I thought maybe there'd be a better response than sarcasm.:dunno:

But please make it be known I am not picking on you or your love for CR and Toyota (and CR's seemingly endless love of Toyota).
 

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I thought maybe there'd be a better response than sarcasm.:dunno:
What else can i say? When it comes to auto reviews you win some and you lose some. No point in crying about "methodology".

Journalists aren't exactly the most honorable people in my book. They are people, and they have an agenda. They have easy access to "media" to get their agenda out to the "people".
I've got no love for journalists. except for :
if you can call a weather girl a journalist?

I do however love the fact that the media loves reporting CR when the GM fans here hate it.

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What else can i say? When it comes to auto reviews you win some and you lose some. No point in crying about "methodology".



I've got no love for journalists. except for :
if you can call a weather girl a journalist?

I do however love the fact that the media loves reporting CR when the GM fans here hate it.

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Yeah, sexy chick.! Probably married thou :disappoin

Honda congratulations. Followed by toyota, bmw and mazda....nice nice .
Ford got higher ratings than before.... :thumbup:
And poor GM still has to deal with past models that are crap. But as it says, new models like cadillac CTS and chevrolet silverado are fairing well...;)
 

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im glad toyota grabbed second
im not suprised at the GM rank, bjut moreover im suprised VW ranked as highly as they did...i mean i have a 1992 GTI with 200+K and it runs great, but ive heard some rough reports about newer VWs so that comes as a suprise to me
 

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Local honda dealer used this info on a newspaper ad....
Wonder if people here actually care about it, or even know what is consumer reports or even read that.
 
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