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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion
xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around
10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600.

I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories.
I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better
quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was
non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price
and that he was not getting any commission off it.

Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for
cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number
and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it
for.
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
[email protected] wrote:
> I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion
> xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
> salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around
> 10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
>
> I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories.
> I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better
> quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was
> non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price
> and that he was not getting any commission off it.
>
> Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for
> cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number
> and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it
> for.



In Seattle your gonna need a more sturdier car than a Toyota Scion.
The accident rate is astronomical out there because of all the bad
drivers and all the rain.

Consider a VW Jetta which has the 5 star side impact crash test rating.
Government Standard.


East-
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
[email protected] wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion
> > xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
> > salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around
> > 10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
> >
> > I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories.
> > I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better
> > quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was
> > non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price
> > and that he was not getting any commission off it.
> >
> > Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for
> > cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number
> > and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it
> > for.

>
>
> In Seattle your gonna need a more sturdier car than a Toyota Scion.
> The accident rate is astronomical out there because of all the bad
> drivers and all the rain.
>
> Consider a VW Jetta which has the 5 star side impact crash test rating.
> Government Standard.
>
>
> East-


Not to mention that the poor road designs in Washington state don't
make matters any better for the high accident rates. Seattles roads
are so horribly designed/constructed that it's as if some guy on an
acid trip had put them together.

East-
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
That doesn't answer my question!

[email protected] wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion
> > > xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
> > > salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around
> > > 10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
> > >
> > > I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories.
> > > I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better
> > > quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was
> > > non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price
> > > and that he was not getting any commission off it.
> > >
> > > Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for
> > > cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number
> > > and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it
> > > for.

> >
> >
> > In Seattle your gonna need a more sturdier car than a Toyota Scion.
> > The accident rate is astronomical out there because of all the bad
> > drivers and all the rain.
> >
> > Consider a VW Jetta which has the 5 star side impact crash test rating.
> > Government Standard.
> >
> >
> > East-

>
> Not to mention that the poor road designs in Washington state don't
> make matters any better for the high accident rates. Seattles roads
> are so horribly designed/constructed that it's as if some guy on an
> acid trip had put them together.
>
> East-
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
[email protected] wrote:
> That doesn't answer my question!
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion
> > > > xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
> > > > salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around
> > > > 10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
> > > >
> > > > I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories.
> > > > I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better
> > > > quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was
> > > > non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price
> > > > and that he was not getting any commission off it.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for
> > > > cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number
> > > > and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it
> > > > for.
> > >
> > >
> > > In Seattle your gonna need a more sturdier car than a Toyota Scion.
> > > The accident rate is astronomical out there because of all the bad
> > > drivers and all the rain.
> > >
> > > Consider a VW Jetta which has the 5 star side impact crash test rating.
> > > Government Standard.
> > >
> > >
> > > East-

> >
> > Not to mention that the poor road designs in Washington state don't
> > make matters any better for the high accident rates. Seattles roads
> > are so horribly designed/constructed that it's as if some guy on an
> > acid trip had put them together.
> >
> > East-


Just keep shopping around. Try Autotrader.com. Try all the online
stores. Check the Internet for prices far away from you. Consider
that if you buy an out of state car you might have to shell out
hundreds of extra dollars to get it licensed in Washington as opposed
to an in-state car.

But I would strongly suggest that you find yourself a more sturdy
vehicle for Seattle. Look at those trucks your are competing with.
Consider a new Hybrid. There are large Hybrids now, small ones, and
medium sized ones.

I have been driving for over 7 years. I have had a CLEAN driving
history until one faitful night in downtown Seattle when some jerk
decided to run a light. Which so happened to be my FIRST night spent
in Seattle. The drivers there are awful. Always cutting everyone off.
They never take their turn, nobody follows the "right of way" laws.
It's Chaos I'm telling you. Chaos. My past experience with Seattle
only goes to show what a bad town it is for driving in. As a matter of
fact Seattle has been consistently ranked the top 5 of the worst cities
to drive in for the USA. Right above San Francisco, and New York City.
There's a reason why your insurance rates are so astronomically high
out there in comparison to the rest of the country.


East-
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
I think it was [email protected] who stated:

>I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion
>xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
>salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around
>10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
>
>I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories.
>I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better
>quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was
>non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price
>and that he was not getting any commission off it.
>
>Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for
>cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number
>and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it
>for.


A better place to ask this question is

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=4

The official policy of Scion is that the dealers sell at MSRP and
there is no negotiation.

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He who laughs last thinks slowest
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
On 30 Dec 2006 22:19:16 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion
>xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
>salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around
>10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
>
>I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories.
>I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better
>quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was
>non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price
>and that he was not getting any commission off it.
>
>Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for
>cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number
>and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it
>for.

I bought my Xa at Burien Toyota. It had 9K miles and I paid about 10
thousand. Got all of the service spiffs & warranty. These are good
people. I live & drive in the south Sound area and have no complaints
about the driving of others, other than the cell phone users. First
avenue in a pot hole problem, but it is being worked on. Have a good
new year.
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:02:13 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion
>> xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
>> salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around
>> 10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
>>
>> I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories.
>> I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better
>> quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was
>> non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price
>> and that he was not getting any commission off it.
>>
>> Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for
>> cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number
>> and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it
>> for.

>
>
> In Seattle your gonna need a more sturdier car than a Toyota Scion. The
> accident rate is astronomical out there because of all the bad drivers and
> all the rain.
>
> Consider a VW Jetta which has the 5 star side impact crash test rating.
> Government Standard.



UGH!!!! He wants something he can DRIVE, not sit in the dealer's waiting
room reading magazines!

Best idea VW ever had: The Jetta Trek. Then you had a bicycle you could
ride while the car was being serviced.

Hachiroku, Former (and NEVER again) Jetta owner...



>
>
> East-
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:19:16 -0800, amitsett wrote:

> I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion xA
> basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
> salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around 10%
> tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
>
> I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories. I
> ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better quote as
> the price was too high. He told me that the price was non-negotiable as
> Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price and that he was not
> getting any commission off it.
>
> Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for
> cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number and
> address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it for.



Scion was set up as a non-negotiable priced car. You're getting a decent
price on Scions. This works because they are in high demand and short
supply. For example:

2006 Scion tC
Base Invoice Price: $15,485 - $16,245 *
Base List Price: $16,300 - $17,100 *


2006 Scion tC Hatchback Coupe 2D
Excellent $20,105

This is the price for a USED Scion tC. Why is a USED tC selling for more?
Because they CAN! The cars are in short supply, and the dealers can't
RAISE prices, either. If this was marketed as a 'Toyota' you could very
well see an ADMU (Additional Dealer Mark-Up) of $2500-$3000. Why? Because
the dealer HAS the car! They do this on popular models to make what THEY
think the car should sell for. But Scion dealer's hands are tied by the
Factory, and they are told you WILL sell the car for this price, even
though they know they could get more.

Thing is, they know if YOU don't buy it, there are plenty who will.

Perhaps another option would be a Honda Fit. Similar, a *little* less
'quirky' styling, and a lot of the same or similar stuff (same
displacement engine, similar base equipment) Bear in mind, as the price of
gas goes UP, so does the price of these cars...with the exception of
Scion. Once a car is purchased from Toyota with a window sticker, the
sticker price stays until the car is sold.
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
"Don Fearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>I think it was [email protected] who stated:
>
>>I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion
>>xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
>>salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around
>>10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
>>
>>I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories.
>>I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better
>>quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was
>>non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price
>>and that he was not getting any commission off it.
>>
>>Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for
>>cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number
>>and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it
>>for.

>
> A better place to ask this question is
>
> http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=4
>
> The official policy of Scion is that the dealers sell at MSRP and
> there is no negotiation.
>


They didn't let us haggle either.

Natalie
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
The salesman lied to you.........twice Find another dealer, WBMA ;)

mike


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion
> xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
> salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around
> 10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
>


> I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better
> quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was
> non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price
> and that he was not getting any commission off it.
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> > That doesn't answer my question!
> >
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a

Scion
> > > > > xA basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
> > > > > salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus

around
> > > > > 10% tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
> > > > >
> > > > > I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few

accessories.
> > > > > I ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a

better
> > > > > quote as the price was too high. He told me that the price was
> > > > > non-negotiable as Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that

price
> > > > > and that he was not getting any commission off it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car

for
> > > > > cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact

number
> > > > > and address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you

got it
> > > > > for.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In Seattle your gonna need a more sturdier car than a Toyota Scion.
> > > > The accident rate is astronomical out there because of all the bad
> > > > drivers and all the rain.
> > > >
> > > > Consider a VW Jetta which has the 5 star side impact crash test

rating.
> > > > Government Standard.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > East-
> > >
> > > Not to mention that the poor road designs in Washington state don't
> > > make matters any better for the high accident rates. Seattles roads
> > > are so horribly designed/constructed that it's as if some guy on an
> > > acid trip had put them together.
> > >
> > > East-

>
> Just keep shopping around. Try Autotrader.com. Try all the online
> stores. Check the Internet for prices far away from you. Consider
> that if you buy an out of state car you might have to shell out
> hundreds of extra dollars to get it licensed in Washington as opposed
> to an in-state car.
>
> But I would strongly suggest that you find yourself a more sturdy
> vehicle for Seattle. Look at those trucks your are competing with.
> Consider a new Hybrid. There are large Hybrids now, small ones, and
> medium sized ones.
>
> I have been driving for over 7 years. I have had a CLEAN driving
> history until one faitful night in downtown Seattle when some jerk
> decided to run a light. Which so happened to be my FIRST night spent
> in Seattle. The drivers there are awful. Always cutting everyone off.
> They never take their turn, nobody follows the "right of way" laws.
> It's Chaos I'm telling you. Chaos. My past experience with Seattle
> only goes to show what a bad town it is for driving in. As a matter of
> fact Seattle has been consistently ranked the top 5 of the worst cities
> to drive in for the USA. Right above San Francisco, and New York City.
> There's a reason why your insurance rates are so astronomically high
> out there in comparison to the rest of the country.
>
> East-


Maybe the OP lives there, already has some idea what he's up against and
doesn't really need us to explain to him how traffic in Seattle works.

My experience is that Seattle is no worse than any other metro area and
better than some.



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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
"Hachiroku ????" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:19:16 -0800, amitsett wrote:
>
> > I went to the Toyota of Seattle showroom today and asked about a Scion

xA
> > basic model with power steering and automatic transmission. The
> > salesperson of course quoted the sticker price of $14,160 plus around

10%
> > tax which would run to approximately $15,600.
> >
> > I felt it was rather high for a car that small with so few accessories.

I
> > ended up telling the sales person that he should give me a better quote

as
> > the price was too high. He told me that the price was non-negotiable as
> > Toyota had asked them to sell the car at that price and that he was not
> > getting any commission off it.
> >
> > Is there anyone who got a 2006 Scion xA automatic transmission car for
> > cheaper than the $15,600 quoted? Please do give me the contact number

and
> > address of the dealer gave you that offer and the price you got it for.

>
>
> Scion was set up as a non-negotiable priced car. You're getting a decent
> price on Scions. This works because they are in high demand and short
> supply. For example:
>
> 2006 Scion tC
> Base Invoice Price: $15,485 - $16,245 *
> Base List Price: $16,300 - $17,100 *
>
>
> 2006 Scion tC Hatchback Coupe 2D
> Excellent $20,105
>
> This is the price for a USED Scion tC. Why is a USED tC selling for more?
> Because they CAN! The cars are in short supply, and the dealers can't
> RAISE prices, either. If this was marketed as a 'Toyota' you could very
> well see an ADMU (Additional Dealer Mark-Up) of $2500-$3000. Why? Because
> the dealer HAS the car! They do this on popular models to make what THEY
> think the car should sell for. But Scion dealer's hands are tied by the
> Factory, and they are told you WILL sell the car for this price, even
> though they know they could get more.
>
> Thing is, they know if YOU don't buy it, there are plenty who will.
>
> Perhaps another option would be a Honda Fit. Similar, a *little* less
> 'quirky' styling, and a lot of the same or similar stuff (same
> displacement engine, similar base equipment) Bear in mind, as the price of
> gas goes UP, so does the price of these cars...with the exception of
> Scion. Once a car is purchased from Toyota with a window sticker, the
> sticker price stays until the car is sold.


Right. Of course, the waiting line gets longer. :)



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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
I think it was toyomoho
<[email protected]> who stated:

>
>Doesn't Scion have fixed non-negotiable pricing like Saturn?


Perzactly!

The Toyota dealership (Toyota of Rochester (MN)) we bought our Camry
from already had that, so it was a good fit for them to add Scion to
their line. I really like shopping there 'cause there was no pressure
and no haggling. They had decent prices on their cars, and if you
didn't like what was on the lot, they'd cut you an equivalent good
deal for one you would order from Toyota. And, of course. Scion.

The BEST part is that the sales folk aren't paid on commission; their
pay is based on customer satisfaction. So Arlyn Ness, our favorite
sales guy of any we've ever met, didn't put ANY pressure on us to load
up with options or to choose this model over that 'cause he'd get more
from one or the other. He wanted us to be the car that was best for
US. Period.

That's also been our experience with the service department there.

I *like* doing business with a place that treats me like I've been
treated by Rochester Toyota/Scion! (They also sell Fords there, but
the Toyota/Scion part is moving to new digs early in '07 -- YAAY!)

-Don

--
Everyone has a photographic memory; but some don't have film
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:32:53 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:

> So Arlyn Ness, our favorite sales guy
> of any we've ever met,



Hmmm...I know him! Now, I have never lived in Upstate New York at all.

Must be a transplant...
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote:
> This is the price for a USED Scion tC. Why is a USED tC selling for more?


because toyota will not take a buy out an upside-down loan and add it to
the cost of a *new* scion.

but they will for a used one!
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
I think it was Hachiroku ???? <[email protected]> who stated:

>On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:32:53 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:
>
>> So Arlyn Ness, our favorite sales guy
>> of any we've ever met,

>
>
>Hmmm...I know him! Now, I have never lived in Upstate New York at all.
>
>Must be a transplant...


This Arlyn Ness isn't in Upstate New York. No New York at all. The
"Toyota of Rochester (MN)" I refer to is in the Rochester in
Minnesota, as was obviously NOT made clear by the tiny (MN) in my
post.

Sorry for any confusion. (I should know better 'cause of all the
stories I know of about people going to Rochester, expecting to arrive
in NY and wind up in MN instead!)

-Don

--
A day without sunshine is like, well, night
 
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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 08:36:35 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:

> I think it was Hachiroku ???? <[email protected]> who stated:
>
>>On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:32:53 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:
>>
>>> So Arlyn Ness, our favorite sales guy of any we've ever met,

>>
>>
>>Hmmm...I know him! Now, I have never lived in Upstate New York at all.
>>
>>Must be a transplant...

>
> This Arlyn Ness isn't in Upstate New York. No New York at all. The "Toyota
> of Rochester (MN)" I refer to is in the Rochester in Minnesota, as was
> obviously NOT made clear by the tiny (MN) in my post.
>
> Sorry for any confusion. (I should know better 'cause of all the stories I
> know of about people going to Rochester, expecting to arrive in NY and
> wind up in MN instead!)
>
> -Don



Well, I was off by 800 miles? But that name still sounds familiar. And I'm
NOT thinking of Elliot Ness or Areln Spector...
 
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