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Now that I am deciding between whether to put a Camry V6 or a 3SGTE motor in my car...next is to make the car lighter.It is a 89 SR5. ANyone know what is the weight of the car? Aside from wheels/suspension which is already done, where else can I make the car lighter and take the weight out of?
How much weight can I expect to drop?
Appreciate the help.
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I do...and its not hard...kinda. 1st do away with the radio and speakers. 2nd the headliner and carpet must go (including the trunk liner i kept the spare cus i drive crazy). 3rd the rear seat, its a little difficult to get out but its a good ~40lbs. 4th interior trim panels, such as kicker, head liner brackets, ect. 5th windshield washer system. You really just gota be creative and weigh weight/comfort, do you wana be deathly hot in the summer and deathly cold in the winter, do you mind lots of rattling. oh yeah i almost forgot get rid of that a/c those things r heavy. Every 10lbs u loose is like gaining one peak HP.
with our cars weight is an easy thing to deal with... The rebars in the bumper, ac and power steering...
Start by NOT considering a V6 swap.. I've never seen one done and guaranteed its heavier than a 3SGTE swap would be, on top of that the 3SGTE is already tight in the engine bay, I can just imagine a V6 in there. :eek:
there are some small v6's but I'm with ren.. there's no need for it.
freakinbox said:
there are some small v6's
we drive corollas not mx3's :lol:...

for weight savings, first thing you should remove is the sound deadener. probably get between 35 lb and 50 lbs, i didnt weigh mine when i gutted it. carpet and headliner weigh next to nothing. remove the rear seat and spare. theres barely a trunk liner, but if you want to remove it, go for it. remove a/c if your serious and power steering if you want. the front seats are suprisingly heavy, replacing them with a fixed, lightweight bucket (posibly composite if youd like) will save osme decent poundage. removing the re-bar from bumpers is a good weight saver (but it depends on whether your driving teh car on the street). replace teh stock tank with a plastic or aluminum fuel cell (with foam), since youll be wanting a new tank to do a efi conversion anyway. replace battery with a lightweight racing battery.

anything after this your into custom body panels (aluminum or fiberglass, of carbon), lighter exhaust system. etc.

you have to consider practicality though.
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Oh cool i didnt know there was re-bar in the bumper. Would it be street legal if i removed it? I think Seibon makes a carbon fiber hood for us ae92 guys. Plexi-glass windows are light and....well they aint cheap but they dont break(easy), just be careful not to scratch them. Billet aluminum wheels, they are both light and sexy. I could go on for a while but u would end up with a race car lol gota luv tubular frames.
your car wouldnt pass a safety check if you remove the bumper bar. no one makes a hood for teh ae92s (that youll be able to find anyway). lexans windows arent expensive because theyre fairly easy to make yourself, but in most places theyre illegal, but if you get in an accident, you cant break them to get out.
Not to mention they scratch so easy that they die very fast. Plus lexan isnt optically that great, you get distortions.

Honestly you'd probably get better gains joining weight watchers.

first thing you should remove is the sound deadener. probably get between 35 lb and 50 lbs
I removed mine... I put them in a bucket and I carried it with one hand with ease, its not going to weigh 50lbs, more like 10lbs if that.
But then I replcaed it with better stuff. But do remember, no matter how much stuff you take out, my corolla with an almost full interior will still be faster ;)
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haha.. that's true.. fat driver = slow car

I speak from experience. :slap: :lol:
well if i remember correctly this is your DD car ? Mine is too which is why i have my interior still in the car... yea i removed alot of the interior a couple years back but i hated how much louder my car was... i seriously thought i was going to go deaf if i kept driving it like that... also the Rattles & every little rock that flung up & hit the bottom of my trunk drove me nuts.... Now the wieght im glad i took off.... Powersteering & AC.... AC yea its nice an all but ive done without for many years now & just got used to the fact that its hot as hell out... Powersteering ! I would never go back to this in the corolla... you really dont need it with such a little car... The first couple weeks you wont like it.. but u get used to it & i love not having it now...

Those that are saying to remove anything to do with the bumper should be smacked upside the head !! I cant imagine getting into an accident with these cars as they are ! removing the backbone of the bumper is just plain Dumb for a street car !!
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I cant imagine getting into an accident with these cars as they are ! removing the backbone of the bumper is just plain Dumb for a street car !!
Probally would resemble something like when we compress are aluminum cans and recycle them :ugh3:
But do remember, no matter how much stuff you take out, my corolla with an almost full interior will still be faster ;)
if it doesnt pop and i dont install the parts ive been acumulating...
powersteering hardly makes a weight difference, the pump is a small assembly and the rack weighs equal to the non ps rack. Even rally cars hve ps.
ya but the pump and backet weigh around 10 pounds, and if your doing a swap in a light car and dont feel like making custom ps lines, and saving yourself a little parasitic loss, its free and easier to just remove it.
Flashmn: u really must like your PS & AC lol u cant agree with me whenever i mention it... i wish i had taken the time to weigh all the AC & PS crap i pulled so i can prove that there is actually alot of wieght there.. When i speak im also talking of a combined weight of taking off both AC & PS pumps/brackets/lines..
actually get JDM bumpers they don't have the steel rebar in there, and it should pass fine since they don't get a spec sheet for your car so as long as it has bumpers they wouldn't notice, especially since most cars don't have the steel rebars in there anymore...

I also agree witht he seats, the drivers seat specifically.. ESPECIALLY with the gts seats. Are heavy. Passenger one not so much as they have less adjustments in them.

Rims will be another one. Lighted suspension parts such as the control arms. Also put headers on it as they will be lighter than a cast iron manifold, aftermarket steering wheel?

I think it's stupid to remove the rear seats for weight since they weigh next to nothing.

If they made a fixed headlight thing for our cars like they do for the rx7 you could do that also to get rid of all the stuff for the flip up lights. Frame and motors.

The other thing with the power steering and ac is your not just removing the parts but the contents inside them, so you cut down in ps fluid. ABS if your car has one is yet another one to do. Plus like said above the brackets are also removed, the ac bracket is HUGE.

Plus with ps you free up hp, if a clutch fan replaced with an electric one can free 10 or so hp imagine what the ac and ps take, ac when it;s on..
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Flashmn: u really must like your PS & AC lol u cant agree with me whenever i mention it...
Well I dont have PS, I do have the pump and rack ready for installation. and yes I do like them both, its one thing riding in a barebones tin can which sucks or riding in a car thats comfortable.

actually get JDM bumpers they don't have the steel rebar in there
Well yeah, and you die in a crash...

Honestly I dont see the point in trying to remove the weight to the point where your car becomes something awful. why not concentrate on gaining power, such as a supercharger or turbokit, if you actually need it. Honestly most ideas here are quite ludicrous, like lightened suspension parts, ok sure if you _can_ actually find them at a decent cost, probably you'd have to have them made. Also do remember race cars only have to last a race on a smooth track, alot of lightened parts wont withstand the wear and tear they're put through on streets.

I'm keeping my aircon, theres nothing better than having it on a hot summer day and women like to ride in comfort rather than a clunky, resonating tin can.

Plus with ps you free up hp, if a clutch fan replaced with an electric one can free 10 or so hp imagine what the ac and ps take, ac when it;s on..
Electric fan puts strain to the engine via the alternator, AC doesnt take anything when the magnetic clutch is disengaged (you do have that button there) and PS doesnt really hurt performance either. But hey, its your car.
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Electric fan puts strain to the engine via the alternator
and anyway the car already come equipped with an electical fan:Bruce:
it really all depends on what your doing with the car. if its your dd, then dont do this stuff (minus thinks like lighter seats), if your planning on trackign it alot, weight savings is free.

Flashmn said:
women like to ride in comfort rather than a clunky, resonating tin can.
generally women dont like to ride in old corollas period.
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