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This is an open note to everyone that might be interested in what happens with my 99' Solara's performance characteristics, if I add the Phantom Supercharger. (including of course moderaters) This is a pretty nice little, peppy package with a 5spd manual and all, and the uprated (200hp/214ft/lbs) 1MZ-FE. I've posted old articles that show stock numbers from Car&Driver. Now how can I post the outcome of this sort of modification on the forum? Or, should I not do so?

This is a technology that will likely become more broadly available, but still is not yet available to the public in general yet. (The waiting list for this system is about 18 months right now) The outcome will likely be very interesting to look over, but is it something that the forum will allow?
 

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This is an open note to everyone that might be interested in what happens with my 99' Solara's performance characteristics, if I add the Phantom Supercharger. (including of course moderaters) This is a pretty nice little, peppy package with a 5spd manual and all, and the uprated (200hp/214ft/lbs) 1MZ-FE. I've posted old articles that show stock numbers from Car&Driver. Now how can I post the outcome of this sort of modification on the forum? Or, should I not do so?

This is a technology that will likely become more broadly available, but still is not yet available to the public in general yet. (The waiting list for this system is about 18 months right now) The outcome will likely be very interesting to look over, but is it something that the forum will allow?
Just tell us if you crapped your pants!:grin:
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Just tell us if you crapped your pants!:grin:
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I don't know if I'll pass along that information or not...:laugh:
I will pass along info on whether it works properly, or gets cranky about it. :wink:

My concern is really with how to present the results in a manner that the forum (supervisors) would think is responsible, since everyone is getting so up-tight about the idea of cars that accelerate quickly, and this is the point of doing something like this in the first place. You can appreciate the availability of extra automotive giddy up and go, and still be a responsible driver, but it does take a degree of discipline to behave yourself. (and I really do)

Since none of the moderaters want to offer up guidance, I'll keep any results to myself, except in general terms. Perhaps Pm's for more specific info from those that may be interested...:smile:
 

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It's quite simple:

Good: dyno charts, track event recordings, basically anything legal
Bad: encouraging or talking about or videos of street racing, breaking speed limits on public roads, breaking traffic laws in general, (such as, doing 100mph without it being clearly visible or stated that you are on a closed course and not a public road) <- anything in this category is a reason for your post to get deleted and you getting a warning

If you really want to drive home the point and shut up a lot of people, you need two dyno charts - one before, one after. Same dyno is the best. Cost of modification is good info, too. Claiming that the mod "blew your pants off" is very subjective and not convincing; dyno charts under controlled conditions are the exact opposite.

Makes sense?
 

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hey, i replaced my fram air filter with screen wire from homedepot and got 10 extra horsepower so if you all gonna knock them kinds of documented results, then i'm taking my tool box and going home.....;-)
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This:

Good: dyno charts, track event recordings, basically anything legal
Bad: encouraging or talking about or videos of street racing, breaking speed limits on public roads, breaking traffic laws in general, (such as, doing 100mph without it being clearly visible or stated that you are on a closed course and not a public road) <- anything in this category is a reason for your post to get deleted and you getting a warning
Also this:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/4-rules/658513-expansion-no-street-racing-drifting-rule.html
 

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^ Thank You BMR! That there, is what I was primarly concerned with, although, for some (computer challenged) reason, I couldn't find it for myself to post in this thread.

I've been driving the Solara 5spd for about three weeks now, and it's pretty clear to me that, that this is not going to be the same as a "cold air intake" thingy.:wink:

The car is already pretty peppy (although there are lots of modern cars that are peppier). Adding 30-40hp, and maybe more importantly about 60ft/lbs of torque to it, will be hard to show in a sweet innocent way. It will be completely traction challenged in 1st gear. In second gear, it will likely sprint from 35-60mph in a couple of heartbeats, with some drama as well. (this supercharger took my automatic Camry from about 8.5 seconds, 0-60mph, to low 6's. This is also a much fresher engine than the Camry had, starting out with 300K km.

This sweet little car is going to kick off its flip-flops, and run like that "Bolt" guy in the Olympics, and its not going to look as cute as my Poodle, taking off after a squirrel to many people.

I'd like to dyno the car, and I will look into this, but the locals want at least $300 to do this.:frown: That's a lot of groceries and doggy treats for a person with a modest income. :|
 

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It will be completely traction challenged in 1st gear. In second gear, it will likely sprint from 35-60mph in a couple of heartbeats, with some drama as well.
Well I'm assuming your not on stock suspension.

I'm on the stock soft suspension with a stock V6 (290Km) and the car's front end really lifts up when I push past 4000RPM when passing. I can just imagine how much it would squat with a super charger, not to mention torque steer.
 

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Well I'm assuming your not on stock suspension.

I'm on the stock soft suspension with a stock V6 (290Km) and the car's front end really lifts up when I push past 4000RPM when passing. I can just imagine how much it would squat with a super charger, not to mention torque steer.
speedcar, my Solara is 100% stock (except for the wheel/tire combination). I't difficult to get across the difference in how the old 4 spd auto works in this car, with the V-6, and how it works with the 5spd. First, the 5 spd is about 15% more efficient at putting the flywheel power down to the tires. So just because of a manual transmission, it puts 30 more hp, and 35 more ft/lbs down to the road. Then adding another gear, gives you a way of selecting the right engine speed to take advantage of the availble power of the V-6. Then the manual transmission is about 150lbs lighter than the automatic, so it is also like kicking out a passenger.

Old performance tests of the Solar, show that the 5spd manual transmission, takes the cars 0-60 times from just over 8 seconds, to 7 seconds, and knocks almost a full second off of the cars 1/4-mile times. 15.6/16.4
With a little boost (4psi or so), I'll be pushing 260-270ft/lbs of torque, and 230-240hp. I'll have to hang on to the steering wheel very hard.:wink:
 

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Hey, a bit of a note on the supercharger installation, and testing. I'm a little distracted right now with ironing out the state of the cars running/driving gear. - It has had a bunch of front-end parts replaced, a 4 wheel alignment, both side mirrors have been repaired, and since the front brake rotors are pieces of junk, I am upgrading the front calipers to old Gen3 twin piston units, along with a change to (ATE, apparently about to be called Brembo, rotors).

I have done some initial fitment of the Phantom Supercharger to the car, and it is very promising. There is actually a bit more space to work with in the Gen4, 1MZ-FE, in between the air filter and the throttle body. The plumbing is simpler, since the 1MZ, does not have an idle air bypass system. Also, due to the fact that this car does not have a hydraulically driven cooling fan system, there is room underneath the cars stock battery tray, to mount the extra battery system. This is great, because the batteries will not have to kick the sound damping system out of the front left fender, and it will stay inside the engine compartment, where the extra heat will boost the batteries efficiency. -This means it will run very quietly, and with more juice most of the time than it did on my Gen3 Camry.

Only bad news is that I looked into the local dyno thing... These guys must have a long line-up, because they want $400, for a basic strap it down and beat it up session! Not a tuner session... just tie it down, and abuse the car.:surprise: I wonder what colour the sky is on their planet? If they have guys lining up though, I guess its "good for them"! I have a whole bunch of better things to do with that kind of payola, and that's just not going to happen.:|

I'll have to figure something else out, to show the results. Some of our surrounding towns still run track events, Ill look for a spot there.
 

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If you have a drag strip near by do before and after install run. Love to see the out come.
 

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To install the Phantom Supercharger on my Solara, I've had to re-do all of the stuff I did with my Gen3 Camry. I may have been able to adapt the stuff over, but I want a very clean professional type of installation. This is how it starts out:

Two 45 degree elbows ordered from "Frozen Boost", in silicone hoses. All top grade hose connectors for the CCV system:


Trimming and fitting to follow. This will delete the sound damping box between the throttle body, and the air cleaner, but keep the rest of the factory sound damping in tact. The centrifugal supercharger itself, also damps intake sound, in a manner very close to the big black plastic box.

Some of you guys might like the car to howl, but I don't want to advertise, what it does will be more than enough for me.0:)
 

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I've been dragging my feet a bit on this modification, because quite frankly, the car is a blast to drive the way it came from Toyota... I've been a bit reluctant to install the supercharger. When a car can in any frivalous moment, peel rubber all over the place, and hit 60 mph in 7 seconds or less, my needs are already overbaked.:wink:

I've run across a couple of cars that seemed to want to test what an old Toyota Solara could do, and gotten beat down, but only slightly, and by rolling pieces of technology that made over 300-400 hp, and should very well do so.

The difference though was surprisingly small, and would easily be easily made up by adding my little Phantom Supercharger. This car would easily match 300hp+ sedans and coupes with my tiny amount of boost. The truth is though that I really don't care all that much about beating up on these cars. These guys are welcome to find trouble of their own on the city streets, they never get in my way.:laugh:

This is how it looks so far:

 
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